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    THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WARNING OF...PERHAPS HEARING IT FROM THOMAS SOWELL WILL HELP IT TO SINK IN.

    Is U.S. Now On Slippery Slope To Tyranny?

    By THOMAS SOWELL Posted 06/21/2010 06:13 PM ET
    Is U.S. Now On Slippery Slope To Tyranny? - IBD - Investors.com


    When Adolf Hitler was building up the Nazi movement in the 1920s, leading up to his taking power in the 1930s, he deliberately sought to activate people who did not normally pay much attention to politics.

    Such people were a valuable addition to his political base, since they were particularly susceptible to Hitler's rhetoric and had far less basis for questioning his assumptions or his conclusions.

    "Useful idiots" was the term supposedly coined by V.I. Lenin to describe similarly unthinking supporters of his dictatorship in the Soviet Union.

    Put differently, a democracy needs informed citizens if it is to thrive, or ultimately even survive.

    In our times, American democracy is being dismantled, piece by piece, before our very eyes by the current administration in Washington, and few people seem to be concerned about it.

    The president's poll numbers are going down because increasing numbers of people disagree with particular policies of his, but the damage being done to the fundamental structure of this nation goes far beyond particular counterproductive policies.

    Just where in the Constitution of the United States does it say that a president has the authority to extract vast sums of money from a private enterprise and distribute it as he sees fit to whomever he deems worthy of compensation? Nowhere.

    And yet that is precisely what is happening with a $20 billion fund to be provided by BP to compensate people harmed by their oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

    Many among the public and in the media may think that the issue is simply whether BP's oil spill has damaged many people, who ought to be compensated.

    But our government is supposed to be "a government of laws and not of men."

    If our laws and our institutions determine that BP ought to pay $20 billion or $50 billion or $100 billion then so be it.

    But the Constitution says that private property is not to be confiscated by the government without "due process of law."

    Technically, it has not been confiscated by Barack Obama, but that is a distinction without a difference.

    With vastly expanded powers of government available at the discretion of politicians and bureaucrats, private individuals and organizations can be forced into accepting the imposition of powers that were never granted to the government by the Constitution.

    If you believe that the end justifies the means, then you don't believe in constitutional government.

    And, without constitutional government, freedom cannot endure. There will always be a "crisis" which, as the president's chief of staff has said, cannot be allowed to "go to waste" as an opportunity to expand the government's power.

    That power will of course not be confined to BP or to the particular period of crisis that gave rise to the use of that power, much less to the particular issues.

    When Franklin D. Roosevelt arbitrarily took the United States off the gold standard, he cited a law passed during the First World War to prevent trading with the country's wartime enemies. But there was no war when FDR ended the gold standard's restrictions on the printing of money.

    At about the same time, during the worldwide Great Depression, the German Reichstag passed a law "for the relief of the German people."

    That law gave Hitler dictatorial powers that were used for things going far beyond the relief of the German people indeed, powers that ultimately brought a rain of destruction down on the German people and on others.

    If the agreement with BP was an isolated event, perhaps we might hope that it would not be a precedent. But there is nothing isolated about it.

    The man appointed by President Obama to dispense BP's money as the administration sees fit, to whomever it sees fit, is only the latest in a long line of presidentially appointed "czars" controlling different parts of the economy, without even having to be confirmed by the Senate, as Cabinet members are.

    Those who cannot see beyond the immediate events to the issues of arbitrary power vs. the rule of law and the preservation of freedom are the "useful idiots" of our time. But useful to whom?
    FESTUS
    IN OMNIA PARATUS

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    He is pretty much right on. The only thing I disagree with is his calling America a Democracy although perhaps realistically that may be what we have become. In reality we are actually supposed to be , started out to be a democratic Republic. Over the years, little by little we have evolved into something far different than what our founders intended and there in lies a lot of the problem We are very near now a total dictatorship in this country and all it will take is a contrived crisis to push over the edge.



    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
    Benjamin Franklin


    "When the people find they can vote themselves money,
    that will herald the end of the republic." Benjamin Franklin


    * Benjamin Rush: "A simple democracy ... is one of the greatest of evils" (1789).
    * James Madison: "Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths" (1787).
    * John Adams: "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide" (1814).
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    The money that has been extorted from BP because of this particular crisis is to paid by BP into an escrow account on a schedule of payments, a set amount between now & the end of the year, and a set amount each quarter until the full amount is paid. As my choice of the word "extorted" implies, and the OP states, this action is wrong, but I don't think it is the scariest part.

    As part of the "agreement" between BP and BHO, BP has placed $20 Billion in BP's US assets in lien to the US government until the full amount is paid. With the 0bama administration pushing a 6 month moratorium, 0bama requesting an Oil Superfund tax of $0.40/barrel, fines, civil suits, and clean up costs any new financial crisis could cause BP to default on its payment schedule. This would give the US government shares in GM, Chrysler, several major banks, and the oil industry.

    I thought someone said the US could NEVER become a socialist country?

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    O,K. Let me pose a question. Is it to late? Have we gone past the point of no return. Can we turn this Juggernaut around and if so how. I am doubtful that another election will make much difference so what can we do. I know we should pray and if we repent as a nation God can turn it around. Do any of yo see true repentance on a nationwide basis happening or are we to the point that we are going to see judgment like Israel did as laid out in the book of Judges. What is your opinions?
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    O,K. Let me pose a question. Is it to late? Have we gone past the point of no return. Can we turn this Juggernaut around and if so how. I am doubtful that another election will make much difference so what can we do. I know we should pray and if we repent as a nation God can turn it around. Do any of yo see true repentance on a nationwide basis happening or are we to the point that we are going to see judgment like Israel did as laid out in the book of Judges. What is your opinions?
    It's been said that if God doesn't judge America, He'll have to apologize for Sodom & Gomorrah. Even in Sodom & Gomorrah homosexuals didn't get married. There's not one single thing that I can think of that America hasn't done in defiance of God, not one single thing. I have no doubt that judgment hasn't already begun for America. I believe that the only reason America is still in existence today is because America has been the only nation to continually support Israel. When America abandons Israel in favor of the Arabs, it's doomsday for America. The American people, as a nation, praying to God and repenting, are you kidding? Nothing could be further from my imagination. Even during the Tribulation the people cry out for the rocks to fall on them to hide them from God and His judgment, rather than repent of their drugs and sexual immorality. Judgment, that's my opinion.
    In America today, it's considered worse to judge evil than to do evil. Never let these Christophobic Liberal Progressive Purveyors of Infanticide & Homosexual Perversion who always manipulate truth to be hate speech set the terms in a debate.

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    Wouldn't it be nice if General McChrystal told the piece of garbage today to shove himself and the rest of the dems up Pelosis's ass and walk out on him and then begin his candidacy for 2012 Prez as the kind of guy we REALLY need to get us out of most of the mess we are in--a take charge, no nonsense, no prisoners taken who deals correctly with the war(s), undoes most of the socialist programs and legislation, and gives up pride in the USA once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice if General McChrystal told the piece of garbage today to shove himself and the rest of the dems up Pelosis's ass and walk out on him and then begin his candidacy for 2012 Prez as the kind of guy we REALLY need to get us out of most of the mess we are in--a take charge, no nonsense, no prisoners taken who deals correctly with the war(s), undoes most of the socialist programs and legislation, and gives up pride in the USA once again.
    I don't what him incharge of anything in this country. He openly said he voted for BHO, if a man with his position and education was dumb enough to fall for the "hope" "change" BS with no actual substance to it then I don't want him in any office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    ... who deals correctly with the war(s),...
    Could you elaborate on that little kel? What in your opinion, would be a "correct" way to deal with Afghanistan at this time?

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    There's no slippery slope, here. When the gov't "of the people" no longer listens to the people, we've already arrived.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlash View Post
    There's no slippery slope, here. When the gov't "of the people" no longer listens to the people, we've already arrived.
    I agree that we have already arrived. However, I disagree when it comes to the "gov't of the people no longer listening to the people", quite to the contrary. Ignorance,apathy,complacency, stupidity, lack of morality and family values, Godlessness, drug oriented, are just a few traits describing our society today, just a few. A government of the people, by the people, and for the people is the government that America has, and the government that America deserves. In America today, everything that has ever been considered good or moral is evil, and everything that has ever been considered evil or immoral is good. There is no difference between the American government and the American people (secular society). The only group separate from it all are the Born Again Christians (non-apostate church), and God will make that separation complete at the time of the Rapture. Our Lord told us that all of this would happen and what to look for so that we would have our house in order and not be caught unaware.

    How can we as Christians, having the knowledge of truth, keep expecting conditions to get better? If things are to get better, then the Bible is a fairy tail and not the inerrant Word of God. I don't fret about conditions worsening everyday, I actually get excited and look up, for our redemption draws near. If the Rapture comes first, I die in my sleep, or they shoot me, it's moxniks, absent from the body is present with the Lord. Let the mockers and unbelievers of our government and society worry about whats happening, and yet to happen, it truly is their problem, not ours. Maranatha.
    In America today, it's considered worse to judge evil than to do evil. Never let these Christophobic Liberal Progressive Purveyors of Infanticide & Homosexual Perversion who always manipulate truth to be hate speech set the terms in a debate.

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