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    Interview of Illegal Mexican Immigrant

    Interview of Illegal Mexican Immigrant


    Here is a REAL INTERVIEW with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in Texas .
    This is good! Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of circular logic. Don 't be logical, don't respect the truth or your adversary, just say what you think makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult to defend.


    Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station on the streets of downtown Houston
    Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of other protesters are marching in the streets to demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is your cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this protest?
    Juan: We want our rights. We will show you how powerful we are. We will bring Houston to its knees!
    Jim: What rights?
    Juan: Our right to live here...legally. Our right to get all the benefits you get.
    Jim: When did you come to the United States ?
    Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the border at night with seven other friends.
    Jim: Why did you come?
    Juan: For work I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year in Mexico . Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go to school free, if I lose my job I will get Welfare, and someday I will have the Social Security. Nothing like that in Mexico !
    Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws when you came?
    Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a right to be here. I have a right to amnesty. I paid lots of money for my Social Security and Green Cards.
    Jim: How did you acquire those documents?
    Juan: From a guy in Dallas . He charged me a lot of money too.
    Jim: Did you know that those documents were forged?
    Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to be here and work.
    Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?
    Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found in your Constitution. Read it!
    Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying anything about rights for Aliens.
    Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have Alien rights, like the right to pursue happiness.. I wasn't happy in Mexico , so I came here.
    Jim: I think you are referring to the declaration of Independence and that document speaks to unalienable rights .. Not Alien rights.
    Juan: Whatever.
    Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen, why then are you carrying a Mexican Flag?
    Juan: Because I am Mexican.
    Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty ... to become a US citizen.
    Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is our country, a part of Mexico that you Gringos stole from us. W e want it returned to its rightful owner.
    Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas .. After winning the war with Mexico , Texas became a Republic, and later Texans voted to join the USA . It was not stolen from Mexico .
    Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen. So was California , New Mexico and Arizona . It is just like all the other stuff you Gringos steal, like oil and babies . You are a country of thieves.
    Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies?
    Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and China . I see them all over the place. You let all these foreigners in, but try to keep us Mexicans out. How is this fair?
    Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen then.
    Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a right to live, work, and speak their native language wherever and whenever they please. That's another thing we demand. All signs and official documents should be in Spanish . Teachers must teach in Spanish. Soon, more people here in Houston will speak Spanish than English. It is our right!
    Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without proper documentation, what rights would I have there?
    Juan: None. You would probably go to jail, but that' s different.
    Jim: How is it different? You said everyone has the right to live wherever they please.
    Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now you want Mexico too? Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have no rights in Mexico . Why would you want to go there anyway? There is no free medical service, schools, or welfare there for foreigners such as you. You cannot even own land in my country. Stay in the country of your birth.
    Jim: I can see that there is no way that we can agree on this issue. Thank you for your comments.
    Juan: Viva Mexico !
    Pass this along to every American citizen in your address books and to every representative in the state and federal government. If you choose to remain uninvolved, do not be amazed when you no longer have a nation to call your own nor anything you have worked for left since it will be "redistributed" to the activists while you are so peacefully staying out of the "fray"..
    Check history, it is full of nations/empires that disappeared when its citizens no longer held their core beliefs and values. One person CAN make a difference. One plus one plus one plus one plus one plus one........
    The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws that actually mean something, however, hasn't even begun.

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    I am sure this is very typical.

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    That is really long and detailed for a TV interview. I can't think of any back and forth on the street interview that was kept intact in the last 20 years. Which TV station? How did he know the guy on the street was named Juan? The whole thing is so complete I would be surprised if they left off the first question.

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    It wouldn't surprise me that many, if not all, illegal immigrants feel the same way about many of the interview subjects as Juan . However, I'm not completely comfortable accepting this interview as legitimate. It's seems almost too perfect to be real. Juan (even the name is too perfect) says all the right things, all the things that would piss off someone strongly opposed to illegal immigration, like most of the forum members. Can anyone validate the existence of this interview? Did it really happen?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by oregon2148 View Post
    ItCan anyone validate the existence of this interview? Did it really happen?
    That's not something provable until the journalist or someone working with him/her releases the primary recordings. Since this is rarely done in journalism, it's best to accept what you hear with a grain of salt. I learned in college that most journalism is uncredible, and half of history is the same way.

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    I cant see this as an actual street interview............would love to see it validated by the "reporter" but either way it is right on the money as to how it has been shown that this is a pretty typical position of an illegal!
    Funny, I wonder, if they actual got those states back that we* stole* from them how long it would take for them to turn them into trash pits like the Mexico they are running from?

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    I could see it being real. Google interviews about Obama, welfare, social programs and you will see / hear some radio or TV interviews that follow the same format. In fact someone put a clip of a radio interview with a FL woman who is on welfare and complaning about us complaining about paying for her laziness on here a few weeks ago. So I can believe it as real. I would equate it as going fishing and getting the big one your not going to go wow it feels like a big one, yep, ok cut the string thats good enough, NO your going to fight it all the way to the boat.

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    the interview is not real

    This interview actually is not real. Here is a link to the Snopes site: snopes.com: Interview with Illegal Immigrant

    which states amog other things: "The Texas television station named says it aired no such interview, and Jim Moore, the reporter, hasn't worked for the station since 1999."

    One really should attempt to verify the accuracy of items such as this before one posts. It is perfectly understandable to have a strong opinion against illegal immigration, but to back up that stance with misinformation is irresponsible. No offense intended to the original poster, but it is imperative to have real, reliable, clear information upon which to base opinions and viewpoints.

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    The beliefs are real

    Many many many mexicans reflect the same beliefs of this "so called" interview.
    YouTube - Aztlan Rising

    There are many groups like the "Mexica Movement" "La Raza" "Aztlan" and so on and so on.
    YouTube - THE MEXICA MOVEMENT

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    Makes me sick to my stomach...
    "Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum"

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