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    Millions of illegals with the vote. Nope I do not think so. this would bring us even closer to a pure democracy and that was never intended. It would be a disaster. This is a republic or at least it was at one time.

    A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
    Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by handguns4kids View Post
    Well, I guess California, New York, Texas, and Flordia could determine every election themseleves...
    Well the ten most populated cities could be the only ones that decide an election. Those people from the less populated areas and the smaller states would have no actual say in the process. Our Founding Fathers saw this possibility and created the electoral system.

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by KathleenElsie View Post
    Well the ten most populated cities could be the only ones that decide an election. Those people from the less populated areas and the smaller states would have no actual say in the process. Our Founding Fathers saw this possibility and created the electoral system.
    Agreed. The tyranny of the majority was something that the founding fathers spoke against.
    The electoral college is a way to help keep less populate states from becoming completely powerless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post

    A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
    Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.
    +1 for the above.. And where are we in this cycle?? Pretty close to the end...



    Quote Originally Posted by festus View Post
    that means that Chicacago LA and NYC...Control the country. Sorry not today! I'd like to see one electoral vote per county. It would give the farmers a voice.
    Yeah, but then North Dakota would institute 1865 counties within it's borders and then RI would have to institute a county for each resident, oh wait, that still wouldn't add up to ND's count, would it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by KathleenElsie View Post
    Well the ten most populated cities could be the only ones that decide an election. Those people from the less populated areas and the smaller states would have no actual say in the process. Our Founding Fathers saw this possibility and created the electoral system.
    Once again, right on. A very smart lady!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    I am qualified to form an opinion because I have not been banned again yet.
    If the Electoral College was banned a few years ago, Dubya would of lost the election, and AlGore would have been in the fancy chair in the oval office.

    IMO, don't mess with the constitution.

    The electoral college was put in place by the framers as another part of checks and balances.
    YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT/CORRECT! dON'T MESS WITH THE CONSTITUTION.
    THE FRAMERS GOT IT RIGHT. READ FEDERALIST PAPERS AND THE CONSTITUTION ITSELF. NO ELECTORAL COLLEGE = DEMOCRACY= MOB RULE!
    NOT MY ASSESSMENT BUT FOUNDING FATHERS!
    JUST SELL YOUR VOTE TO HIGHEST BIDDER FOR CASH ON THE SPOT!
    DO NOT MESS WITH THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!

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    [QUOTE=Bohemian;149465]I still contend the Electoral College like the Second Amendment is timeless...

    Just imagine if we went with popular vote and then Obama & Company gave Amnesty to the 47 million and counting Illegal Aliens...

    Part of being founded as a Constitutional Republic vs. the Mob-Rule Democracy, (not withstanding liberal, progressive politicians, media talking heads and Obama loving forum infiltrators...), the Liberals teaching school and writing text books say we are, is to ensure that the majority's do not trample the rights of the minority's, through Coercion ...

    FEDERALIST No. 68

    The Mode of Electing the President
    From the New York Packet.
    Friday, March 14, 1788.


    In the Federalist Papers #68 ...
    Hamilton and the other founders believed that the electors would be able to insure that only a qualified person becomes President. They believed that with the Electoral College no one would be able to manipulate the citizenry. It would act as check on an electorate that might be duped. Hamilton and the other founders did not trust the population to make the right choice. The founders also believed that the Electoral College had the advantage of being a group that met only once and thus could not be manipulated over time by foreign governments or others.
    Federalist Papers: FEDERALIST No. 68

    Also, I want to emphatically state NOTHING COMPUTERIZED IS 100% SAFE...[/QUOTE
    I don't think it was about trust but more about voter manipulation and mob/democratic majority. The did trust the voters in that back then the voters had a vested interest in the outcome....they had to own property to vote! Skin in the game.
    Just think about the masses having direct vote after making their decisions based on the unbiased "news" people on television!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Millions of illegals with the vote. Nope I do not think so. this would bring us even closer to a pure democracy and that was never intended. It would be a disaster. This is a republic or at least it was at one time.

    A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
    Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.
    HK, I agree a true democracy can't exist for long, however, doing away with the electoral college would not bring about a democracy. Laws would still be passed the same, there would still be a Senate, a House Of Representatives, a President and a Supreme Court. The only thing that would change is how the President and Vice President get elected. As for those millions of new votes because of amnesty, if the electoral college votes the way they are supposed to (according to how their constituents want) it would work out the same.
    Last edited by ronwill; 07-21-2010 at 04:36 PM. Reason: Added new info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KathleenElsie View Post
    Well the ten most populated cities could be the only ones that decide an election. Those people from the less populated areas and the smaller states would have no actual say in the process. Our Founding Fathers saw this possibility and created the electoral system.
    Here is a good ten minute clip on why we want a Republic and nothing else.

    YouTube - The American Form of Government

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