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    Sorry to throw my $ 20.00 in (2 cents, who the Hell wants 2 cents, I'm a Capitalist dammit) BUT CASH IS KING. Look at all the Politicians, OK most. They preach one thing and do another. "IT'S YOUR PATRIOTIC DUTY TO PAY YOUR TAXES" Yet most of em dodge their way out of them......OK Wrangle their way out of them. Crap, Kerry parks his 9 million dollar yacht in RI to avoid Mass. property taxes. ONLY now just paid up cuz he was pressured into it.
    As for your Health Care, CASH is King. There will be a two tiered system. FIRST Tier-You the public, SECOND Tier-Those that can and will pay for better health care. Weather it's here or a quick plane ride down to Costa Rica. (Currently setting up Medical Clinics for Americans by Americans). "Won't happen here", think again.......My bosses sister is having a full mastectomy and rebuild, this is in Holland. The first surgery 2-month waiting list, rebuild 8 month waiting list. BUT----Private Health Care in HOLLAND will do it almost the same day. WHY-----Cash is KING.

    As for ArmedFestus and his posturing and pondering WHY we are in the mess we're in. (Or at least inherited from GW) Let me just say the only reason you are posting on a computer to this site is directly due to a FREE MARKET. GOVERNMENT interference in any free market no longer makes it free and also makes the manipulation of that market a possibility. And of course if it's possible it's already been done. Let me put it a kinder, gentler way: Due to the constant degradation of our society and continued pandering to those that create nothing. Most of us producers have been turned into Sharecroppers and this great Nation of ours is nothing more than a Plantation, Uncle Sam's Plantation.

    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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    Great post, mappow! I agree with you 100%. BTW, you misread ArmedFet..'s Stage Name...and I use that moniker for him literally, since he was quite an ACT. Read it again, carefully!
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    Conservative Wife & Mom -- I'm a Conservative Christian-American with dual citizenship...the Kingdom of God is my 1st home and the U.S.A. is my 2nd.

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    Sorry all if I miss understood and or miss spoke. Just feeling more and more agitated concerning the state and conditions of our great Country. No Harm intended:>) Tired of people stealing the fruits of my labor then claiming that their righteous in giving to those that they think deserve it.

    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mappow View Post
    Sorry all if I miss understood and or miss spoke. Just feeling more and more agitated concerning the state and conditions of our great Country. No Harm intended:>) Tired of people stealing the fruits of my labor then claiming that their righteous in giving to those that they think deserve it.

    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)
    No apology necessary, mappow. You are in good company here. Most of the rest of us are tired of people stealing the fruits of our labor, too, just to "redistribute the wealth" (isn't that a sickening PC phrase?) to anyone with their hand out. Like Margaret Thatcher said, "Socialism works until you run out of other people's money". Before the progressives are done, we're all going to be in the poor house...who will pay the piper then?
    Conservative Wife & Mom -- I'm a Conservative Christian-American with dual citizenship...the Kingdom of God is my 1st home and the U.S.A. is my 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Wife & Mom View Post
    No apology necessary, mappow. You are in good company here. Most of the rest of us are tired of people stealing the fruits of our labor, too, just to "redistribute the wealth" (isn't that a sickening PC phrase?) to anyone with their hand out. Like Margaret Thatcher said, "Socialism works until you run out of other people's money". Before the progressives are done, we're all going to be in the poor house...who will pay the piper then?
    I think we all remember the lady on TV answer the question of where the money comes from:

    Q: Where does the money come from?
    A: OBAMA
    Q: Where does he get it?
    A: I don't know (or care) "his" stash?

    So the answer is OBAMA's STASH. LOL

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    Funny how the politics and other threads always end up in an anti-Obama rant, or a Christian vs. non-believers argument.

    I guess it helps to keep your subject matter limited to the one or two things you believe you may know something about or have a strong opinion on.

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    C&L, my quality of Life is in direct proportion to the state of this Great Country. If the Country is failing, so am I. If the Country has saddled to much debt, it becomes my debt as well. I am an American, I help my Country daily through taxes and community support. I've even served with Honor in my Countries Military, going well beyond what's required of any civilian.
    I do pray daily, I surrender my life and will to God, just for today, and pray for Gods guidance and strength for me. I believe it is his day, not mine. He allows me daily to participate in it. These are my beliefs, not anyone elses. I do not ask for nor would I ever requests someones elses permission to believe in a certain way. My choices are just that, mine. The beauty of this Country is that we all are allowed not only our beliefs, but we are free to express them out loud without fear of Government intervention or incarceration. So if we repeatedly "end up in an anti-Obama rant, or a Christian vs. non-believers argument." then so be it. In a political thread, I would think this would be the place for it. As for the content of what most of us end up harping on...........Obama types and non-christian types are IMHO and appearantly many others why this once Great Nation has degraded into some type of quasi-socialist country that's rewards the slothful and penalizes the producers.
    SORRY AGAIN IF I'M OFF BASE, DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND.

    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mappow View Post
    C&L, my quality of Life is in direct proportion to the state of this Great Country. If the Country is failing, so am I. If the Country has saddled to much debt, it becomes my debt as well. I am an American, I help my Country daily through taxes and community support. I've even served with Honor in my Countries Military, going well beyond what's required of any civilian.
    I do pray daily, I surrender my life and will to God, just for today, and pray for Gods guidance and strength for me. I believe it is his day, not mine. He allows me daily to participate in it. These are my beliefs, not anyone elses. I do not ask for nor would I ever requests someones elses permission to believe in a certain way. My choices are just that, mine. The beauty of this Country is that we all are allowed not only our beliefs, but we are free to express them out loud without fear of Government intervention or incarceration. So if we repeatedly "end up in an anti-Obama rant, or a Christian vs. non-believers argument." then so be it. In a political thread, I would think this would be the place for it. As for the content of what most of us end up harping on...........Obama types and non-christian types are IMHO and appearantly many others why this once Great Nation has degraded into some type of quasi-socialist country that's rewards the slothful and penalizes the producers.
    SORRY AGAIN IF I'M OFF BASE, DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND.

    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

    You are not off base.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    You are not off base.
    I would characterize it more as misplaced fear. Fear instlled by the FUD mongers who make mountains out of molehills and use misinformation to skew beliefs away from the truth towards their political agenda.

    This country is not failing - far from it. Mappow, you are being bombarded by the rantings of people who want you to believe it is so they may wield more power and control over you.

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    Oh my good man C&L. Propaganda has hit an apex in its degree of control of the masses. Those that best use it have always been those that do not want you to make an informed decision, but one that they direct you to do. "I CAN SAVE YOU" "FOLLOW ME, I'LL SHOW YOU THE WAY",” THOSE DAM SO-AND SO'S HAVE REALLY MESSED IT UP. WE KNOW HOW TO FIX IT"
    This great Nation has been built on inspiration and work of the INDIVIDUAL, not the masses in this free market environment. Those that wish to miss-inform are those that want to control you and that market. HENCE most of the regulations governing commerce. HENCE the erosion of your personal freedoms and rights. The takers are winning, that's not propaganda, that's fact. Don't believe me, just look at your net verses gross on your check. That's of course if you are a wage earner.

    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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