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    The overgrown, un-pruned power of the presidency to reward, punish and intimidate may now be so overwhelming that his re-election in 2012 is already assured — Chicago-style.
    Very startling post. The above quote is what grabs me. It reaffirms what I have held. By 2012 it will be to late, this country will be lost.
    Never argue with an idiot. First they drag you down to their level then they beat you with experience!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KathleenElsie View Post
    Never was. We are a REPUBLIC. Our Founding fathers knew a TRUE democracy would not work in the long run.
    To be more specific, we are (were?) a Constitutional Republic...and Benjamin Franklin wasn't too sure THIS type of government would work. When asked by a woman what form of government they had given the people, his answer was, "A Republic, Ma'am, if you can keep it!" Our Founders were so wise...makes me wonder where the wisdom is today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    Very startling post. The above quote is what grabs me. It reaffirms what I have held. By 2012 it will be to late, this country will be lost.
    Boomer, funny you should say that because that last sentence grabbed me, too! I had to re-read it several times before my brain allowed the impact of those words to finally register!
    Conservative Wife & Mom -- I'm a Conservative Christian-American with dual citizenship...the Kingdom of God is my 1st home and the U.S.A. is my 2nd.

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    Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
    I sure hope so, as I think they will continue to do what they're doing until someone stops them.

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    I still have faith that our America is not gone or dead. If it were, then people would not say what was in the original post, nor would we even be talking about this the way we do. If we were in the Soviet Union or China, and posting stuff on the internet, we would be in a gulag by now. I do think the danger is real though. I believe the far left Democrats will get their asses handed to them in November too. Is this enough to slowly stem the tide? I don't know for sure, but I hope and pray it will. I wish more Blue- dog Democrats would stand up to this radical Liberal agenda. There are some damn fine Democrats out there, but just so few of the "Truman" types. (The buck stops here) I think that both parties have been hijacked by a bunch of idiots who care nothing about right or wrong, just about stealing from the people and America's liberties. I always laugh when I hear them describe themselves as "public servants". I wish to serve the public at six or seven figures a year! Keep the faith people, I still believe the good will prevail. We may go through some crap times, but I have not lost faith in my country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Wife & Mom View Post
    Boomer, funny you should say that because that last sentence grabbed me, too! I had to re-read it several times before my brain allowed the impact of those words to finally register!
    This is understandable because some flavors of FUD are nearly insoluble and completely inert. Being composed of almost pure nonsense, it can become difficult for the human mind to comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handgonnetoter View Post
    I still have faith that our America is not gone or dead.
    No not dead but in intensive care on life support.

    We need to water the tree...
    Never argue with an idiot. First they drag you down to their level then they beat you with experience!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by liquidr1 View Post
    This country is no longer a democracy.
    it never was a democracy, it's a Republic

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    Quote Originally Posted by rakkasan2187 View Post
    it never was a democracy, it's a Republic
    A Republic under a Democratic form of government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post

    You don't have a peaceful revolution. You don't have a turn-the-other-cheek revolution. There's no such thing as a nonviolent revolution. Revolution is bloody. Revolution is hostile. Revolution knows no compromise. Revolution overturns and destroys everything that gets in its way.

    And if that's what's needed, so be it...Perhaps the time has come...
    Mr. X knew that above all things to be true... Time for action will come... It's spelled out for us in the Declaration if Independence is it not?

    IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

    When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

    For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    — John Hancock

    "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather, fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28, NKJV.

    "The Lord is my helper; I will not fear: What can man do to me?" Hebrews 13:6b, NKJV.

    Peace...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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