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    EPA Considering Ban on Traditional Ammunition: ACT NOW!!

    EPA Considering Ban on Traditional Ammunition: ACT NOW!!

    All Gun Owners, Hunters and Shooters:

    With the fall hunting season fast approaching, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under Lisa Jackson, who was responsible for banning bear hunting in New Jersey, is now considering a petition by the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) - a leading anti-hunting organization - to ban all traditional ammunition under the Toxic Substance Control Act of 1976, a law in which Congress expressly exempted ammunition. If the EPA approves the petition, the result will be a total ban on all ammunition containing lead-core components, including hunting and target-shooting rounds. The EPA must decide to accept or reject this petition by November 1, 2010, the day before the midterm elections.

    Today, the EPA has opened to public comment the CBD petition. The comment period ends on October 31, 2010.

    We urge you to submit comment to the EPA opposing any ban on traditional ammunition. Remember, your right to choose the ammunition you hunt and shoot with is at stake.

    The EPA has published the petition and relevant supplemental information as Docket ID: EPA-HQ-OPPT-2010-0681. If you would like to read the original petition and see the contents of this docket folder, please click here. In order to go directly to the 'submit a comment' page for this docket number, please click here.

    Stress the following in your opposition:

    • There is no scientific evidence that the use of traditional ammunition is having an adverse impact on wildlife populations.
    • Wildlife management is the proper jurisdiction of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services and the 50 state wildlife agencies.
    • A 2008 study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on blood lead levels of North Dakota hunters confirmed that consuming game harvested with traditional ammunition does not pose a human health risk.
    • A ban on traditional ammunition would have a negative impact on wildlife conservation. The federal excise tax that manufacturers pay on the sale of the ammunition (11 percent) is a primary source of wildlife conservation funding. The bald eagle's recovery, considered to be a great conservation success story, was made possible and funded by hunters using traditional ammunition - the very ammunition organizations like the CBD are now demonizing.

    • Recent statistics from the United States Fish and Wildlife Service show that from 1981 to 2006 the number of breeding pairs of bald eagles in the United States increased 724 percent. And much like the bald eagle, raptor populations throughout the United States are soaring.

    Steps to take:

    Lisa P. Jackson
    Administrator, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
    1200 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
    Washington, DC 20460
    (202) 564-4700
    Fax: (202) 501-1450
    Email: [email protected]

    3. Contact your congressman and senators and urge them to stop the EPA from banning ammunition. To view a sample letter, click here.

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  3. Nothing those idiots do suprise me anymore but they do manage to piss me off every year. They have to reinvent themselves every year to keep there business going. They are pushing to pass a law also to make every property owner contain their dust on their property. Farmers are a target saying that their dust is a hazard to citizens. I think not having food on your table would be a bigger hazard!

    The EPA has also passed a law that says I can only build one custom motorcycle in my lifetime. If it get stolen, that's tuff luck, your screwed because it is not EPA certified vehicle. Funny thing is that no states have the money for administrative staff to enforce it and the state DOT has no knowledge of it and do not enforce it at this time.

    Their whole orginization needs shot down! I sure hope that "We the people" can turn this country around before I die. It is sad indeed.

    Thanks for the post and the links. I will be writing my letters and making comments.

  4. I can't get the links to work for me.

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    Back door gun control. If you can't get ammo guns become expensive paper weights. Better stock up now.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by concrete guy View Post
    I can't get the links to work for me.
    I just double-checked them, they work for me still...

    try using a different browser firefox/internet explorer/opera... whatever...

    if that does not work try checking your browser and anti-virus security settings...

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    EPA Considering Ban on Traditional Ammunition

    “You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you mad.” – Aldous Huxley

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    Quote Originally Posted by MI .45 View Post
    EPA Denies Ammo Ban Petition Friday, August 27, 2010 Responding to a grassroots outcry from gun owners, the Environmental Protection Agency today announced that it has denied a petition by the Center for Biological Diversity and other radical groups that had sought to ban the use of lead in ammunition.

    Agreeing with the position of the NRA and the firearms industry, the agency explained in a news release that it “does not have the legal authority to regulate this type of product under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA).” Further crushing the hopes of anti-gun and anti-hunting activists, the release added: “nor is the agency seeking such authority.”

    “It’s outrageous that this petition even went this far,” said Chris W. Cox, NRA-ILA Executive Director. “We applaud the EPA for its understanding of the law and its common sense in this situation -- both of which were totally missing in the petition filed by these extreme anti-gun and anti-hunting groups.”

    Because the EPA has no power to regulate ammunition, it will not move ahead with a public comment period on the petition. However, a comment period will remain open until September 15 on the other part of the petition, which asks EPA to ban the use of lead in fishing sinkers.
    Be sure to watch for more coverage of this important victory in next week’s Grassroots Alert and in NRA’s magazines.

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    I should point out that nothing in the ruling prevents the EPA from later deciding to enact a ban on lead fishing weights. Not entirely firearms related, but somewhat.

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    The state law changed in regards to elevated lead levels in local lakes, especially public hunting lakes for water fowl, and it's made a difference.

    We now use 'Lead Free' shot which is a bit more expensive, but does the job, and we aren't contaminating the lakes anymore.

    Some lakes were so lead fouled the fish were toxic to eat and had to be closed to fishing in the summer!
    Now they are open again to fishing, and hunting with lead free ammo isn't a big deal for me.

    The rifle ranges are going lead free around here, and since I can dig out a years worth of lead for casting bullets in a single day, I'd say that is an 'Issue', if not a 'Problem'...

    The new public ranges have to be built with a clay liner that keeps the lead out of the water table,
    And private ranges are switching to lead free because of the insurance/environmental damage potential.
    Since I drink water and eat game/fish from both private/public lands, I'm concerned (but not panicked) about the lead potential issues.

    I've gone lead free with my big bore rifles & shot guns,
    Still looking for a lead substitute for my small bore rifles,
    And I don't have a clue what I'm going to do about muzzle loaders and Cowboy guns...
    I haven't seen the first lead substitute for those out yet.

    Honestly, I can't see how fur hunting lead would concentrate enough to be a problem,
    But so very few rounds are fired at game compared to what is thrown around by target shooters everywhere,
    And most of that lead gets slung around off proper ranges where it can be contained...
    And if you ban lead for hunting, the manufacturers WILL fill the void with a substitute for lead in short order,
    And the costs WILL come down when it hits full production...

    Personally, I don't care which direction it goes now,
    I'm making the switch, slowly but surely as options come available, simply because it's the 'Right' thing to do in my opinion... (My OPINION, so don't flame me for it!)
    The less I pollute the planet, the less future generations have to clean it up, so that's OK with me...

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    California’s ban has not been shown to reduce lead levels in Condors...

    Lead Ammo Ban's ... More Liberal Mythology to justify increasing costs of ammo, and reducing the number of individuals whom can afford to hunt or defend themselves...

    California’s Lead Ammo ban has not been shown to reduce lead levels in Condors, and has driven more people away from hunting. Additionally, it’s interfered with lawful self-protection in parts of California that are considered condor habitat.

    Via Mark Hemingway. Hey, if air is an environmental hazard worthy of federal regulation, surely bullets are too, no?
    I could sit here for a week and not come up with an issue more likely to make already vulnerable House Dems wet themselves than this one, assuming that the EPA acts on it. Which, I’m guessing, they won’t.
    NSSF is springing into action, as the public comment period opens on EPA considering a regulation that will ban all traditional lead ammunition. This would basically end the shooting sports as we know it. Remember this is a no-win situation for us, because bullets made of materials other than lead are often considered armor piercing by law. Copper is your basic material, and copper is expensive, and has much poorer performance properties than lead.
    As NSSF has pointed out, there’s no real scientific basis for restricting lead ammunition. Just about all shooting ranges at this point are recycling their lead (it’s too valuable to just leave in the ground). California’s ban has not been shown to reduce lead levels in Condors, and has driven more people away from hunting. Additionally, it’s interfered with lawful self-protection in parts of California that are considered condor habitat.
    Here’s the site where you can read the official petition, leave a comment, etc. The date the comment period ends? Two days before the midterms. Worst-case scenario here: The EPA announces the ban, thereby instantly causing a stampede of Blue Dogs from rural districts down Pennsylvania Avenue so that they can pass a bill overriding it. (If the ban comes next year, our new Republican House — and Senate? — will take care of it, natch.) Then it’s on to The One’s desk for signature, and rest assured, with his eye on 2012 and knowing that he’ll need western and midwestern states to win, he will sign it. Maybe even with a smiley face as the “O.” Damn, I love wedge issues.

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    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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