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  1. Lead Bullet Ban

    From my other research, this is not gun or ammo specific, they are looking at a general ban of lead, and I am not against restricting the use of lead in things like plumbing, paint, etc.

    However, the results to the gun owner are the same. Shooting will become MUCH more expensive. Chris Rock said forget gun control, make bullets $5000 each.

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    Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets | The Weekly Standard


    Will Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson make a back door move to ban lead bullets the day before the November 2 elections?

    Several environmentalist groups led by the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) are petitioning the EPA to ban lead bullets and shot (as well as lead sinkers for fishing) under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA). Although EPA is barred by statute from controlling ammunition, CBD is seeking to work farther back along the manufacturing chain and have EPA ban the use of lead in bullets and shot because non-lead alternatives are available. But here's the catch: the alternatives to lead bullets are more expensive. A ban on the sale of lead ammunition would force hunters and sport shooters to buy non-lead ammunition that is often double the cost of traditional lead ammunition. A box of deer hunting bullets in a popular caliber could be upwards of $55.




    Although the EPA could have dismissed the request due to a lack of jurisdiction, it is obliging CBD. The EPA has asked for public comment on banning lead in ammunition, and an EPA notice was published seeking public comment that closes on October 31. Jackson would then make a decision to accept or reject the petition on November 1. You might say that even considering enacting what is effectively a new tax on hunters and gun owners--seemingly the only non-liberal group the Obama administration hasn't yet intentionally provoked--is less-than-perfect timing for the already beleagured Democrats as the midterm elections approach.

    The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), a trade association for the firearm and ammunition industry, has hit back against the petition sending Jackson a letter documenting why EPA has no jurisdiction and outlining the damage that banning lead ammunition would do to U.S. industry and jobs, conservation, and law enforcement. The NSSF estimates that more than 90 percent of hunters and sport shooters use traditional lead ammunition. If all hunters were forced to buy non-lead bullets that are made out of metals like tungsten, bismuth, and copper alloys, demand could easily begin to outstrip the supply and prices would go even higher.

    Bill Clinton famously blamed the NRA and gun owners for sweeping Democrats from control of the House in 1994 after he pushed them to pass the Assault Weapons Ban. For Democrats, especially those in rural and conservative districts that are already facing votersí wrath, gun control could once again be an issue that helps defeat them and swings control of the House and perhaps even the Senate to the GOP.
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    To hell with Chris Rock, he is a dumbass, and to hell with the EPA as well. That corner the EPA has us painted into, and I am just not talking about the bullet issue only here, is getting so small that we will not be able to move anymore.

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    This is just more of the liberal garbage that has been going on for years. No legit science required. Find some junk science that fits your agenda and run with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiofan View Post
    Excellent. Just remember who tried to make this happen.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by handgonnetoter View Post
    To hell with Chris Rock, he is a dumbass, and to hell with the EPA as well. That corner the EPA has us painted into, and I am just not talking about the bullet issue only here, is getting so small that we will not be able to move anymore.

    The EPA has a one we are fighting hard here in Iowa. All property owners must contain their dust on their own property. The dust from farmers working in the fields spreads through the air and is harmful to the public.

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    The good news is that the EPA decided to drop the ban. The pressure was to great on them thanks to those who write their reps.

    EPA Surrenders to NRA on Gun Control Issue - US News and World Report

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    Ever see a snake slither back under a log???? They are not gone and will come back out when the "dust" clears where they can strike you again. The EPA is the same way--and don't forget it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    Did you hear. Govt scientist proves that 9 out of 10 people believe any statistic they read.
    Yeah, and 83% of statistics are made up on the spot!!!
    (Yes, I just made that statistic up as well, so maybe it's 84% now!!!)

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by -06 View Post
    Ever see a snake slither back under a log???? They are not gone and will come back out when the "dust" clears where they can strike you again. The EPA is the same way--and don't forget it.
    True they will just "reword" it...try to cover their tracks, stick it deep in some regulation or rule....they can not be "trusted" cause to them the ends justify the means

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