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    It's a war, alright...

    There's a war going on down there, but what you guys don't seem to understand is it's not across the border, or involving illegal immigration. It's a war between the Mexican government / Mexican Army and the drug cartels - internal to Mexico. Our military is very involved, doing plenty to help the Mexicans win that war, supplying equipment, training and intelligence.

    All the hogwash about a border war and illegal immigration is just the hysterical ranting of misinformed individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    There's a war going on down there, but what you guys don't seem to understand is it's not across the border, or involving illegal immigration. It's a war between the Mexican government / Mexican Army and the drug cartels - internal to Mexico. Our military is very involved, doing plenty to help the Mexicans win that war, supplying equipment, training and intelligence.

    All the hogwash about a border war and illegal immigration is just the hysterical ranting of misinformed individuals.
    And how is it that the drug cartels remain economically viable? How is it that the cartels manage to maintain an army of their own that can give the Mexican army and the police a run for their money?

    They bring the drugs over the border for distribution and sale here in the US (which is our responsibility in relation to this war). The proceeds then go back over the border for the purchase of arms, politicians, and manpower to continue the fight.

    We need to treat this like it is a war that we are involved in. The security and well being of the citizens of the United States is at stake. There have been citizens killed by illegals crossing the border. 1 killed would have been enough for me to declare war on the cartels and secure the borders which will stem the flow of illegals, some of whom carry drugs into this country for distribution. That qualifies them as foreign enemies, does it not? What number of US citizens killed would get you to react?
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    These type things have been going on down there for decades. The only reason it seems worse to you now is the ubiquitous mass media feeding your hysterical, active imagination in this politically charged atmosphere today. And in some cases spreading unsubstatiated rumors, like the Texas ranch invasion scare.

    Regardless, there's no "citizen militia" issue. Doesn't exist, bad idea. To foment this notion is pure nonsense - just another fantasy dreamed up from FUD and hysterics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    Regardless, there's no "citizen militia" issue. Doesn't exist, bad idea. To foment this notion is pure nonsense - just another fantasy dreamed up from FUD and hysterics.
    What if everyone involved in the citizen's border patrol agreed to wear a CCW Badge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6shootercarry View Post
    And how is it that the drug cartels remain economically viable? How is it that the cartels manage to maintain an army of their own that can give the Mexican army and the police a run for their money?

    They bring the drugs over the border for distribution and sale here in the US (which is our responsibility in relation to this war). The proceeds then go back over the border for the purchase of arms, politicians, and manpower to continue the fight.

    We need to treat this like it is a war that we are involved in. The security and well being of the citizens of the United States is at stake. There have been citizens killed by illegals crossing the border. 1 killed would have been enough for me to declare war on the cartels and secure the borders which will stem the flow of illegals, some of whom carry drugs into this country for distribution. That qualifies them as foreign enemies, does it not? What number of US citizens killed would get you to react?

    +1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    These type things have been going on down there for decades. The only reason it seems worse to you now is the ubiquitous mass media feeding your hysterical, active imagination in this politically charged atmosphere today. And in some cases spreading unsubstatiated rumors, like the Texas ranch invasion scare.

    Regardless, there's no "citizen militia" issue. Doesn't exist, bad idea. To foment this notion is pure nonsense - just another fantasy dreamed up from FUD and hysterics.
    You are correct! Violence has been happening along the border for decades; and DC has NOT been able to even slow it down.

    In 1988 my wife was on a 12wk assignment in south TX. One of her friends and co-workers was almost kidnapped in broad daylight as she loaded groceries into her car.

    Fortunately, a brave stock boy that was collecting carts in the parking lot saw what happened and went to her rescue. Had these people been successful she most likely would have ended up in S.America as a slave to some drug lord. (At least, that's what the police told us.)

    It seems that even in America, the "white" slave market is alive and well.

    I think it might be time for a different approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    You are correct! Violence has been happening along the border for decades; and DC has NOT been able to even slow it down.

    In 1988 my wife was on a 12wk assignment in south TX. One of her friends and co-workers was almost kidnapped in broad daylight as she loaded groceries into her car.

    Fortunately, a brave stock boy that was collecting carts in the parking lot saw what happened and went to her rescue. Had these people been successful she most likely would have ended up in S.America as a slave to some drug lord. (At least, that's what the police told us.)

    It seems that even in America, the "white" slave market is alive and well.

    I think it might be time for a different approach.
    I like the Charles Bronson approach.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Me too!

    How about Bruce Willis style in "The Last Man Standing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    "These type things have been going on down there for decades."
    There it is, in plain English...
    Yes it has been going on down there for a long time. Shall we allow it to continue or change the tactics and no longer allow it to happen? What say you?

    Send a new message across the border instead of the old one, "We're not really gonna do anything about this".

    Of course Mexican president Calderon has things well in hand and just needs the US to agree to ban guns and that will fix the issues.

    So everybody just sit back and relax. Really no issue there... It's all the media...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    What if everyone involved in the citizen's border patrol agreed to wear a CCW Badge?
    OK, OK - I'll get behind this, but only if they are restricted to carrying "Barney Fife style," with the weapon empty and one round in their pocket.

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