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    Where are WE headed???

    A friend sent me this message. Some may have read it. I had never seen it and just wanted to share...

    Long, but worth the time to read it...


    You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door.


    Half-awake, nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.


    At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.

    With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun..
    You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it.

    In the darkness, you make out two shadows.
    One holds something that looks like a crowbar.

    When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire.

    The blast knocks both thugs to the floor.

    One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside..

    As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.

    In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless.

    Yours was never registered.

    Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died.

    They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.

    When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably
    plea the case down to manslaughter.

    "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.

    "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing.

    "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."

    The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper.

    Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot
    are represented as choirboys.

    Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them.

    Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims"
    have been arrested numerous times.

    But the next day's headline says it all:"Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die."

    The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type
    pranksters.

    As the days wear on, the story takes wings.

    The national media picks it up, then the international media.

    The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.

    Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win.

    The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several
    times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their
    lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.

    After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time.

    The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

    A few months later, you go to trial.

    The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted..

    When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you.

    Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man.

    It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges..

    The judge sentences you to life in prison.


    This case really happened.

    On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one
    burglar and wounded a second.

    In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.

    How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?

    It started with the Pistols Act of 1903.

    This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons
    and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a
    license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only
    handguns but all firearms except shotguns.

    Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by
    private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.


    Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the
    Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man
    with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw.

    When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.


    The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control",
    demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned
    handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)


    Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a
    semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public
    school.


    For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable
    or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up
    law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up
    all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The
    Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearms
    still owned by private citizens.

    During the years in which the British government incrementally took away
    most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed
    self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant
    gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was
    no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or
    robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.

    Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying,
    "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."

    All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several
    elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no
    fear of the consequences... Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had
    seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars..


    When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given
    three months to turn them over to local authorities.


    Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't
    were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they
    didn't comply.


    Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private
    citizens.

    How did the authorities know who had handguns?

    The guns had been registered and licensed.

    Kind of like cars. Sound familiar?


    WAKE UP AMERICA ; THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION.

    "..It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless
    minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
    --Samuel Adams


    If you think this is important, please forward to everyone you know.

    You had better wake up, because your president is going to do this very same thing
    over here if he can get it done...

    And there are stupid people in congress, in the media, and on the street that will go right along with him.
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    Pretty sobering.


    3X PM

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    I have a friend of mine living in England, and he had all his guns turned in. I for one will not turn in any guns over to anyone.

  5. Yep.... can you 1984? I will be sharing this on FB.

  6. BTW, I have sent this letter to all my senator. I hope you do the same... here is the link (President Obama is "going to address gun control" - soon. Please FAX this to your senator: http://bit.ly/gOMHCN)

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    There's a lot more to this story. For one, Mr. Martin did not report the shooting.

    Second, he only served 3 years.

    Yes, he used a pump shotgun. And he shot them as they fled. That won't fly in the U.S. either. And then there was that little thing about shooting at a passing car that led to him losing his gun permit 6 years earlier.


    "Barras was shot in the back and died at the scene, while Fearon was shot in the leg and recovered after treatment in hospital."

    "Martin had been burgled so many times that he had set up an elaborate network of look-out ladders and traps, even removing a stair to hinder intruders."

    "But it emerged the pair had been shot as they tried to flee through a window."

    "Jurors also heard that Martin had a history of gun-related misbehaviour, including firing upon a car six years before - an incident which led to his shotgun certificate being revoked."

    "He began an appeal immediately. In court he argued he had suffered from a paranoid personality disorder which diminished his responsibility. His barrister told the court Martin had suffered sexual abuse as a child and "considered himself a boy of about ten"."



    From the EDP24 site:

    "October 30, 2001
    Tony Martin's conviction is reduced to manslaughter. His setenced was reduced to five years — meaning he will be eligible for parole in a year.

    Freedom
    Tony Martin was released from custody on July 28, 2003. A Prison Service spokesman said he was released from an undisclosed location, adding: “He is now a free man.”
    Martin served two-thirds of a five-year jail term for shooting dead teenage burglar Fred Barras and wounding his accomplice Brendan Fearon during a raid at his isolated farmhouse at Emneth Hungate, near Wisbech in August 1999."
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    A lot more to the story?

    Burglars are burglars no matter from what side of the fence you look.
    Did Martin make some bad life decisions. Maybe so and the media took advantage.

    Bottom line her folks...Do we want this happening HERE?
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    So, Martin was justified in booby trapping his home and shooting a guy was running away inthe back? Is this really who you want for aposter boy?
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    Martin was not my focus...He sounds like a good ole boy who had a record of "misbehavior"...and No he's not, nor would ever be, a poster-boy of CC.

    Just another story of prohibition and what could possibly happen on this side of the pond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    There's a lot more to this story. For one, Mr. Martin did not report the shooting.

    Second, he only served 3 years.

    Yes, he used a pump shotgun. And he shot them as they fled. That won't fly in the U.S. either. And then there was that little thing about shooting at a passing car that led to him losing his gun permit 6 years earlier.


    "Barras was shot in the back and died at the scene, while Fearon was shot in the leg and recovered after treatment in hospital."

    "Martin had been burgled so many times that he had set up an elaborate network of look-out ladders and traps, even removing a stair to hinder intruders."

    "But it emerged the pair had been shot as they tried to flee through a window."

    "Jurors also heard that Martin had a history of gun-related misbehaviour, including firing upon a car six years before - an incident which led to his shotgun certificate being revoked."

    "He began an appeal immediately. In court he argued he had suffered from a paranoid personality disorder which diminished his responsibility. His barrister told the court Martin had suffered sexual abuse as a child and "considered himself a boy of about ten"."



    From the EDP24 site:

    "October 30, 2001
    Tony Martin's conviction is reduced to manslaughter. His setenced was reduced to five years — meaning he will be eligible for parole in a year.

    Freedom
    Tony Martin was released from custody on July 28, 2003. A Prison Service spokesman said he was released from an undisclosed location, adding: “He is now a free man.”
    Martin served two-thirds of a five-year jail term for shooting dead teenage burglar Fred Barras and wounding his accomplice Brendan Fearon during a raid at his isolated farmhouse at Emneth Hungate, near Wisbech in August 1999."
    There's a lot more to this story. For one, Mr. Martin did not report the shooting.
    Are you out of your mind? it doesn't matter if he served one day or three years or life. He was charged for defending his home.

    Jurors also heard that Martin had a history of gun-related misbehaviour, including firing upon a car six years before - an incident which led to his shotgun certificate being revoked."
    What was the reason he fired into the cars? could it have been someone had broke into his home and was fleeing?

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