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  1. HK4u, I can't see how anyone can look at that photo and not see the wrong in it. Some people are blind I guess. We have laws in this nation that allows the killing of babies, and we wonder why kids are shooting up the schools.

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    Rational choices...

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAYBROOK View Post
    HK4u, I can't see how anyone can look at that photo and not see the wrong in it. Some people are blind I guess. We have laws in this nation that allows the killing of babies, and we wonder why kids are shooting up the schools.
    Perhaps if the mother of those kids who are involved in these shootings acknowledged they were in over their head bringing someone else into this world when they can't take care of themselves and exercised a rational choice those shootings wouldn't have happened. How many more shootings will we see if a woman's right to choose is taken away by your extreme religious right mentality? How much of a tax burden are you creating for the American population by this socialism? If a woman acknowledges she's not capable of taking care of a cat much less a child, she should have the right to terminate her pregnancy within legal and medically accepted limits. By acknowledging such she's done society as a whole a great service. Which would you rather do? Have the problem taken care of by a responsible female who knows what will probably happen or would you rather have to draw your CCW and have to take care of the issue yourself because of youf beliefs in mandating that child be born? A child should not have never been born to begin with that will be an ongoing product of the correctional system that may end up being a postactive abortion in a death chamber and at great expense to the taxpayer.

    If never ceases to amaze me how the majority of the pro-2A population out there are into sticking their nose into an individual woman's right to decide what happens with their body for 9 months. It's not our business, never has been, never will be. It's a decision she needs to make. I will never condemn a woman who has had an abortion because she probably lives with that decision every day. This morality paradox is also the same for persons who have used lethal force in self defense. I can't condemn either for their actions because of the legality of them. You members of the religious right out there what happened to "thou shalt not kill"? Oh wait, a minute, there are some convenient verses in your Bible justifying self defense and keeping arms. If I recall correctly some religions also consider contraception murder. Are you all going to start a jihad against Trojan now? What about doctors that do vasectomies and tubal ligations? How many have they killed by your irrational reasoning?

    I'm at least consistent with my beliefs; pro-2A, pro-choice (or abortion as the religious right would put it) and pro-euthanasia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netentity View Post
    Perhaps if the mother of those kids who are involved in these shootings acknowledged they were in over their head bringing someone else into this world when they can't take care of themselves and exercised a rational choice those shootings wouldn't have happened. How many more shootings will we see if a woman's right to choose is taken away by your extreme religious right mentality? How much of a tax burden are you creating for the American population by this socialism? If a woman acknowledges she's not capable of taking care of a cat much less a child, she should have the right to terminate her pregnancy within legal and medically accepted limits. By acknowledging such she's done society as a whole a great service. Which would you rather do? Have the problem taken care of by a responsible female who knows what will probably happen or would you rather have to draw your CCW and have to take care of the issue yourself because of youf beliefs in mandating that child be born? A child should not have never been born to begin with that will be an ongoing product of the correctional system that may end up being a postactive abortion in a death chamber and at great expense to the taxpayer.

    If never ceases to amaze me how the majority of the pro-2A population out there are into sticking their nose into an individual woman's right to decide what happens with their body for 9 months. It's not our business, never has been, never will be. It's a decision she needs to make. I will never condemn a woman who has had an abortion because she probably lives with that decision every day. This morality paradox is also the same for persons who have used lethal force in self defense. I can't condemn either for their actions because of the legality of them. You members of the religious right out there what happened to "thou shalt not kill"? Oh wait, a minute, there are some convenient verses in your Bible justifying self defense and keeping arms. If I recall correctly some religions also consider contraception murder. Are you all going to start a jihad against Trojan now? What about doctors that do vasectomies and tubal ligations? How many have they killed by your irrational reasoning?

    I'm at least consistent with my beliefs; pro-2A, pro-choice (or abortion as the religious right would put it) and pro-euthanasia.



    How much of a tax burden are you creating for the American population by this socialism? If a woman acknowledges she's not capable of taking care of a cat much less a child, she should have the right to terminate her pregnancy within legal and medically accepted limits.


    I do not view a baby/human life as a "tax burden' or equal to a "cat".
    None the less:




    I believe at this time I am not going to change your mind and your sure are not going to convince me that killing and innocent baby is anything but murder.

    However I believe that the time has come to bring to and end this discussion. First Let me begin by saying that if I have offended you or anyone else by any comments I have made that was not my intentions.
    First off I never meant to compare you to Hitler but rather to compare the attitudes to many in America today to those of the German people under Hitler that looked the other way. As I am sure you know someone once said "If you fail to stand for something you will fall for everything".
    Like most of us on this site the 2nd amendment is one of the things I have stood for because I know if we lose that right then none of our rights will be secure. However there are a number of other convictions that I have chosen to take a stand on.
    At the top of my list is my savior Jesus Christ and as a Christian I feel compelled also to take a stand against the murder of unborn babies. Unfortunately in my zeal I sometimes forget that I am not the Holy Spirit but rather only God's lowly servant.
    So again if I have by anything that I have said offended you or anyone else please forgive me.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

  5. Netentity, did you even look at the photo? Did you recognize that to be a baby? These are two yes or no questions. I'd simply like two yes or no responses from you.

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    I am most definely pro life.
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  7. Well if it is ok to kill them half born ,why not 2 or 3 year olds if we don't them. Hell why not put all old people down at 50. I'm gone.

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    People who say they are Pro choice I think don't want to say they are pro abortion. They, maybe not all are afraid to just say it out loud.
    I wish the laws supported Pro Life, and I will leave it at that.

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    Yes, being pro choice means being pro abortion. To call oneself pro choice but say you're against abortion is like saying you're pro 2A but against concealed carry. Just doesn't make any sense. I don't see those who call themselves pro choice but anti abortion doing anything to try to stop anyone from getting an abortion. As far as I'm concerned, the only time that killing a developing human life is ever okay is if the woman's life (not necessarily her health, ie., morning sickness being the most commonly cited "health problem" by pro abortionists)is in jeopardy. Even though I don't like the idea of children being conceived by way of rape or incest, I believe that even children conceived in this manner should not be aborted, because as far as I'm concerned, all human life is sacred, regardless of how it's conceived.

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