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    Angry Bin Laden Showboating by BHO

    A friend sent me this..Subject: The Raid on Osama Bin Laden: a critique

    I received it from a retired Marine Recon Officer - Former Commanding Officer of the 4th Recon Battalion and a very good friend. Wounded three times in V.N. He still maintains some contacts with his community, and his information is usually correct and to the point. This all makes sense to me……………………………………..but the non combatant libs would probably question and deny all truths not in their best interest.

    A very reasoned critique of the Raid. The desire (and need) for politicians to” grandstand” along with the insatiable pressure from the media makes it almost impossible to maintain any semblance of “need to know”.

    How could this administration allow the spectacular military raid that killed Osama Bin Laden be marginalized by the massive security breach (immediate disclosure of all information about this raid to the world) that served only to enhance the poll numbers of a president responsible for our national security?

    By spilling his guts to the world Obama grasped defeat from the jaws of victory!

    Obama could have gotten all the glory he wanted if he just could have given the military and intelligence community only a few more days to exploit the “Mother Lode” of information we gained during this raid before he had to brag to the world about his heroic deeds!

    The more I hear about the Osama Bin Laden raid the more concerned I become about the motives and the competence of this administration. Let me tell you why!

    The first thing we should be concerned about with this massive outflowing of information about the raid is our lost opportunity to dramatically disrupt the al-Qaida organization.

    It is now being reported that we got the “Mother Lode” of information during the raid.

    For the head of a terrorist organization using only couriers to communicate with others it seems axiomatic that this is what we should have expected. The three types of information we got most probably include:

    #1 - The locations of Osama Bin Laden’s immediate subordinates (the people most likely in line to take over as the leaders of al-Qaida upon the death of Osama Bin Laden… couriers had to have this information).

    #2 – Planning information on future operations (details about all major terrorist attacks planned for the foreseeable future).

    #3 – Misc. matters necessary for al-Qaida to function (financing, communications, continuity of operation plans, organizational structures, strength, recruiting, training and standard operating procedures).

    Common sense also tells us several other things that anyone could predict before the operation took place:

    #1- If we said absolutely nothing after the raid no one in al-Qaida would know what happened. No one in al-Qaida, except the couriers, apparently knew where Osama Bin Laden lived. The Pakistan government, or any individuals who happened to know, could not admit they knew he lived there... at least in the media. If they protested the incursion and the downed helicopter we could apologize for a failed operation or whatever. If anyone knew Osama Bin Laden lived there they wouldn’t know whether he got away or anything at all… unless we spilled our guts, as we have done about the operation.

    #2 – We would have a short period of time to exploit the “mother lode” of information we had just seized. The courier set-up Osama Bin Laden used would not work as the couriers were dead. It would take some time for al-Qaida members to find out what happened. When they heard anything they would not know much for some time and there would be a lot of doubt and confusion throughout the organization. If and when they did learn something definitive there would be a mass flurry of communication and our electronic surveillance apparatus would get some great information and leads. A lot of good things would happen. In contrast a lot of bad things will happen because we have laid everything out in great detail in the media that is going to every al-Qaida member in real time!

    #3 – We could dramatically disrupt the entire al-Qaida organization in a number of very substantive ways in a very short time. We could do many things in a very short time to exploit a lot of this information before anyone in al-Qaida could react, such as take out all the likely leaders to succeed Osama Bin Laden, seize al-Qaida funds around the world, disrupt or kill people in cells on the verge of committing terrorist attacks, etc. They wouldn’t know what happened until it was all over!

    I cannot imagine any of our military leaders or the people in the CIA not recommending to the president to keep his mouth shut for at least a short time to allow time to see what info we had and see what we could do before all the al-Qaida personnel relocated, transferred all the money out of existing accounts, etc. If our military and intelligence leaders didn’t make such recommendations they should be fired.

    The country should be outraged at Obama throwing our country under the bus for a little good press and about a 9% immediate gain in the polls! Besides, he could have gotten even better press if he was smart enough to have held up this information for about two months and then been able to tell the world:

    #1 – Osama Bin Laden was killed in a spectacular military raid, and…

    #2 – We have killed the five most likely terrorists in the line of succession to take over al-Qaida, and…

    #3 – 80% of al-Qaida financial assets have been seized, and…

    #4 – We have disrupted four major future terrorist attacks against ourselves and our allies in our war against terrorism, and etc., etc.!

    The second thing we should be concerned about with this massive outflowing of information about the raid is the dramatic increase in al-Qaida’s operational capabilities to avoid our future intelligence gathering capabilities.

    Every day more of the details are put out about how we got the information that led to the death of Osama Bin Laden. We are also telling them exactly where, when and how they screwed up or had a lapse in security that let us break the case.

    All this information is a wonderful guide to them on what they need to change to eliminate detection. If we think it was hard to track down their leaders before, wait until we try it the next time. Let us look at what happened the last time a president wanted to raise his poll numbers a bit. One of the reasons we had such a hard time finding Osama Bin Laden this time and a major reason we got surprised on 9-11 was because President Clinton disclosed that we were monitoring Osama Bin Laden’s satellite cell phone about the time of the Monica saga. After that small disclosure Osama Bin Laden stopped using his satellite phone and all electronic devices. He then went to the courier system and allowed few if anyone except a trusted courier even to know his location. After that almost all information from him completely dried up. If this disclosure of highly classified information had not happened we might have known about 9-11 in advance, the twin towers might be standing and 3,000 lives might not have been lost, not to even mention the cost of the wars that followed. As they said duringWWII, Loose lips sink ships!

    The Bottom Line:

    Because Obama couldn’t wait for a very short time to see his poll numbers go up and brag about a military success at a later time:

    #1 - Al Qaida gained valuable information that will provide them time to modify compromised operational plans and reposition leaders and assets.

    #2 - The US was prevented from scoring as decisive and extremely damaging a blow against al-Qaida as would otherwise been possible without this security breach.

    #3 - Al-Qaida was provided valuable information about their operational security failures.

    #4 – All of the above will most assuredly enhance terrorist operations against us in the future at the cost of many American lives.

    It is sickening to me to see Obama basking in success when he apparently has been an impediment rather than an asset to the country. He has ripped the possibility of one of the most successful military operations we have had in recent times from the jaws of victory and greatly diminished the brilliant efforts of our outstanding military force!

    If you agree, please pass this view on to others.

    The country needs to know the truth about what could have been.

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    interesting food for thought, i wholeheartedly agree. i believe we have known for a long time he was there as well as pakistan. Since elections are comin up, he wants to keep his cushy job screwing the very people he is supposed to serve.

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    Couldn't agree more. I was watching the brand new "Killing Bin Laden" show that sure popped up fast the other day and was floored by the level of stupidity in our Government after seeing how much info they just gave away. I hope they don't expect future raids to be as successful as that one because they are a smart enemy who keeps evolving and learning from their mistakes.
    MN Permit to Carry Instructor
    NRA Certified Instructor: Pistol, PPITH
    NRA Life Member, 3 x Iraq War Vet

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    Slightly off topic, but Obama is double-flip-flopping on oil drilling now too. Not directly related, but related in the sense that both issues are aimed at the 2012 election.

    I wish Obama would have been transparent in more appropriate ways, rather than just compromising future military intelligance operations.

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    This critique of the raid assumes that it actually took place as BHO has said. The way the administration has handled it afterwards has made me even more suspicious of how much truth there is in what is being told. The handling of it has been to maximize political points and nothing to actually hurt the al-Qaida. It is like catching one bank robber of a gang then going on TV telling the details of how all your security systems work and what you are doing to catch the others. But this appears to be the norm for this administration.

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