Gave a Gun Owners Caucus talk at my county Democratic Party meeting tonight.
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  1. Gave a Gun Owners Caucus talk at my county Democratic Party meeting tonight.

    Yup, here in Oregon at least, we have a Gun Owners Caucus of the state Democratic Party. It is the second-largest caucus; behind only the GLBT caucus. (With a decently large overlap; including the Gun Owners Caucus chair - whose goal is to have the Gun Owners Caucus become larger than the GLBT caucus.) I am the Local County Representative for Multnomah County - the county that includes Portland; which makes it the highest-population county in the state; and also the county with the largest percentage of the population that falls under as restrictive gun laws as the Oregon constitution allows.

    The statewide chair has been holding information talks at county Democratic party meetings for a while now, and as might be expected of Democratic party gatherings, has gotten some hostile crowds. (Surprisingly, mostly in RURAL county Democratic party meetings.) Being that I am in one of the most liberal cities in the U.S., I had prepared myself for an onslaught of negativity. (At the first county meeting after the issue with the Wisconsin lawmakers, there was an attempt to pass an "emergency resolution" supporting the Democratic lawmakers there. Because it was an "emergency resolution", it had to be passed unanimously to pass. One person dissented, and was immediately attacked by some of the more militantly pro-union Democrats in the room. I came to his defense then; and was afraid of getting the same basic treatment when I gave my presentation.)

    Well, tonight I gave my presentation, after having it delayed quite a few times. (I had originally had it scheduled for February, but that was right after the Giffords mass shooting, and was convinced to postpone. Had to postpone for other reasons at other times, ranging from being sick to having meetings run ultra-long.) I even had one of the county party leaders attempt to convince me to postpone it again, because of the IHOP shooting. I was determined to go ahead this time. (Partly because of the Temple University student self-defense case - that is a POSITIVE case for gun owners.)

    The result? At a meeting of the Democratic party in one of the most liberal cities in the U.S.? Very well received. I asked how many current members of the Gun Owners Caucus were in the room, and had the four people I knew about already, plus two more I didn't know about. Fielded about ten questions, and only one was "anti-gun" (from an ER nurse.) Even that one was asked politely, and had no snarky follow-up. (Surprising, considering this person is known for snark.) Most comments were positive, including quite a few cries of "I didn't even know the Democratic Party *HAD* a Gun Owners Caucus!"

    In the end, it really helped open lots of Democrats eyes to the fact that yes, even other Democrats, even ultra-liberal ones (we have one guy who does identify himself as a "socialist"; but most Gun Owners Caucus members do seem to be the Democrats who would be called "Blue Dog" Dems, definitely a more moderate-to-mild-conservative bent to those who make an effort to be in the Gun Owners Caucus.) And got at least a few Democrats who were pro-gun-rights, but didn't want to "offend" fellow Democrats who now feel comfortable actively lobbying for gun rights.

    So, mission accomplished: in one of the most liberal cities in the country, we now have dedicated politically-active liberals who are now more willing to openly support gun rights.

    Next month I'm going to arrange a trip to a shooting range. I'll be sure to invite quite a few of the local politicians who are on the edge for gun rights, and try to get them fully converted as well. (I'll also invite some of the avowedly anti-gun politicians, but I doubt any of them would attend.)

    If you're in the Portland area, and want to come (and are willing to hang out with a bunch of liberals - and promise not to try to stir the pot too much on non-gun issues,) let me know; I'll let you know the date, time, and location. (I ask not to bring up non-gun issues specifically to make sure that the on-the-fence politicians see that people that support them on most things feel strongly about gun rights, too. I know I'll be inviting one politician I don't agree with on much - but I'll hold my tongue on the other issues and let her think I agree with most things so she won't just dismiss my views on guns outright.)


    By the way, our caucus' tagline is "Democrats don't want your guns -- we've already got our own."

    Dons flame-retardant suit for the impending onslaught of right-wing criticism... I will conduct serious debates, but will not respond to purely personal attacks.

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    The gay rights movement, is a natural ally for the gun rights movement. Pinkpistols

  4. Edit: fixed now.

    heh. I think you mean pinkpistols.org, not .com. (AKA: Your link goes to a "domain parking" page with a picture of a woman in lingerie.)

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    Sorry for the typo, fixed now.

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    I'm sure your Libretard buddies would support gun ownership as long as they were the only ones with guns. Look around there are no moderate Democraps, you are all Socialists waging class warfare and waving around the race card at anyone who disagrees with your mantra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twogunwilly:228228
    I'm sure your Libretard buddies would support gun ownership as long as they were the only ones with guns. Look around there are no moderate Democraps, you are all Socialists waging class warfare and waving around the race card at anyone who disagrees with your mantra.
    OK....who let their demented grandpa out of the attic and on the computer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dark View Post
    OK....who let their demented grandpa out of the attic and on the computer?
    That's a good question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dark View Post
    OK....who let their demented grandpa out of the attic and on the computer?
    I don't know, but if anyone thinks democrats can actually represent gun owners, you KNOW they're demented!
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  10. Well, considering the only member of the Oregon state legislature to possess a Class 3 FFL is a Democrat...

    I agree, there is a lot of work to be done educating many Democratic lawmakers; but there are plenty out there who fully support the Second Amendment.

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    Ed,

    I would love to join you and your fellow Democrats for a day of shooting. Its unfortunate that Im not a resident of Oregon and the drive up is in the ball park of 12 hours or so. I do believe that it would do me good to be the "fly on the wall" of a Democrat conversation and listen to an opposing point of view for a while. Have a good day shooting!
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