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    Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    I don't see why greedy senior citizens should be more entitled to the money I earn than I am. I also get offended when people ask for a "senior citizen's" discount. There "discount" comes strait out of my paycheck every month in the form of the social security tax.
    Truth is, they're collecting the money THEY earned for a lifetime, not your money. I paid the max on SS tax most of my life. If I had that money to invest it would today be a lot more than SS will pay. Remember this... roughly $500 permonth invested at an average rate of 9% for 30 years comes to over $1 million. For those who think 9% is impossible, those of us who invested for our entire life have earned close to 9% over our lifetime. And the free-market will return in due time to do the same.
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    What are you saying here, BC1? You invest money and expect to make money on your investment? Isn't this the very evil the occupy crowd is protesting? Why you should be ashamed of your self. This evil profit must be shared with the poor non productive crowd.
    "You can get a lot accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit" - Ronald Reagan

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    Use all owes me a living man. Why should I work, I mean that's why they call it work, it be hard. I'll just vote Democrat and they be taken some of yours and give it to me. I had a bad up bringen. I dunt likes skool cuz its a waste of mi tyme. Ewe have it and ewe owes me so git over it.

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    Now I realize your post is a joke.... but the real joke is that there are people existant that have about that level of understanding and grasp of communications skills, not to mention "attitude".

    Worse, WE let them breed and VOTE! (LOL!)

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    The President's 10 Commandments in the Progressive Playbook:

    10 Commandments in the Progressive Playbook:

    1. Never concede a victory to a Conservative, even if the nation suffers greatly as a result.
    If Conservatives win an election, claim corruption and contest the outcome.
    Remember, no one has the right to be in power but Progressives.
    If all else fails, find an activist judge to overturn any Conservative policy.
    Thwart the will of the people and the democratic process in any way necessary to get your way.
    Never forget………rules and civility are for wuss’s and not meant for you.
    Always campaign against every Conservative bill in Congress or any Conservative idea, no matter what the benefit to America may be.
    Never agree with a Conservativein public.
    Solidarity trumps truth and righteousness.

    2. Always remember to use the deception that has brought us to power.
    For example, if you author a bill to raise taxes, name it “The Tax Reduction Bill.”
    If we need to confiscate more freedom, call the effort “The Increased Freedom Initiative.”
    That’s the way to get things done.
    By the time the “little people” figure it out, you will have stirred enough hatred against Conservatives that they will still support you.

    3. Whatever illegal and unethical thing Progressives are about to be exposed for doing, or are planning to do, instantly rush out and accuse Conservatives of that exact infraction.
    Remember the 3 D’s. Distraction, Diversion, and Deception are our most powerful weapons.

    4. Anytime you find someone supporting the Constitution and traditional American values, call them “extremists” and belittle their intelligence with name-calling.
    These people are obstacles to our overthrow of the American system and must be marginalized.

    5. Always consider bi-partisanship, compromise and “fairness” as weaknesses to exploit.
    Lure Conservative into the false sense of bi-partisanship that will lower their guard, and they will be easier to destroy when you spring the trap.
    Always stay vigilant and on guard against falling into the altruistic trap of American pride and patriotism. Those are also weaknesses to the exploit.

    6. Repeat a lie often enough for our voter base to accept it as truth.
    Always spin a defeat as a victory for your side and your opponent’s victory as a failure, no matter how uncomfortable you may be in doing so. Remember, our voters are emotional, not logical, and they are easily led to think what we tell them to think, and repeat what we tell them to repeat.

    7. Never take sides against the Progressive Party leadership.
    Stand with your party NO MATTER WHAT.
    Always discourage the voters from considering the consequences of Progressive proposed legislation, and instead appeal to their stronger emotional urges.
    Remember to stir hatred, envy, and the divisiveness of class warfare, and you will “own” your voter base forever.
    Party first, country…….never.
    There is NO time this will not apply.

    8. Never miss an opportunity to adopt and use double standards.
    That’s a powerful tool to use against our enemies.
    Hold them accountable to a different standard than we practice, and you will be rewarded by your emotion-driven voter base who will never notice the difference.

    9. Always side with America’s enemies against her.
    Remember, you are both on the same side against American liberty manifested in capitalism.
    Find a way to present America’s enemies as “victims.” And remember to always describe treason as “patriotism.”

    10. Endeavor to punish the innocent in order to avoid punishing the guilty.
    This is the purpose of the Department Homeland Security and the excuse we use to impose gun control.
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    I have had to deal with "no loads" (i.e. those who expect you to carry their share of the "load" and further expect you to "cover" the costs of "carrying" that particular drain on society.) all my life. I had, once upon a time, merely considered them part of the ubiquitous 10%'ers found in every society, walk of life.

    Now that the moochers, paracites, drones and no loads have multiplied to the point of plurality (if not majority).... it becomes apparent that even the most succesful economy in the history of the world can no longer afford to drag that "tail" along any further.

    Yet, even with that understanding staring us in the face, we lack the political will to tell the no loads that simple fact of life. Their political power has become strong over the years, in accordance with their numbers and percentage of society.

    They are no longer merely the 10%'ers.... they are a threat to our very way of life. The soundness of our economy. The very essence of the concept of a free man, self reliant and in pursuit of freedom of choice.

    They are poor, they are destitute, they are non self motiviated, they are losers. Do they look in the mirror to see the major cause of their "misery"? No, they look at those who have not succumbed to their weakness of will, their mental disease, their failures, those who have "Made it!" and are consumed with envy, then to hate. As if their success in any way detracted from your ability to be just as successful had you the will to make it so.

    We have engendered a herd of sheepish, utterly dependent on someone else, set of slackers that only wants guidance, comfort and someone else to do their thinking for them, someone to take on the hard challanges of life for them. Someone to Mother them and support them for life. The joy of perpetual adolesence!

    Rest assured that there are any number of stong willed, power hungry political types more than happy to help you further fit better into that herd of sheep. NOT to YOUR benefit, mind you, but to their's.

    "We are from the Government and we are here to help you." (The irony of the whole situation is sublime.)

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    Which part of "... shall NOT be infringed..." confuses you?
    Well now, aren't WE a pair, Raggedy Man? (Thunderdome)

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    Couldn't have said it better Gunny. A major tool in the liberal tool box. You can't make it on your own. I'm here to help you, come with me, I will provide what you need.
    "You can get a lot accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit" - Ronald Reagan

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    Communist Goals for the take over of America. 

    Good Morning All,

    I have been going through the list of the Communist Goals for the take over of America. 

    The word Communist put a bad taste in the mouth of every American, So we changed the word to Progressive, so the pill would go down easier.

    Where are we Now?

    Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963.

     

    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    (Done)

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    (Done)

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength. (Obama is in the process of dismantling our largest atomic bunker busters right now)

    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. (Done)

    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites. (Done)

    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

    (Done)

    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

    (In 1971 Communist China was admitted into the UN and Nationalist China expelled.)



    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N. ( The plan was foiled by President George H. W. Bush East and West Germany Formal political union occurred on 3 October 1990)

     

    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress. (Still working)

    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N. (Done)

    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Obama and Hillary are doing their best to accomplish this one)

    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. (They have already changed the name to Progressive and to disagree would either be politically in-correct or a hate crime )


    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. (Or just change them as you see fit)

    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

    (Aug.24, 2010 The U.S. Patent & Trademark Office and its equivalent in Russia are launching a one-year pilot program on Sept. 1 to fast-track each other's approved patent applications.)

     

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (Done, Interesting the Republican party agrees with everything the tea party suggests, Balance budget, lower debt, less government intrusion, But the debt keeps getting higher, and regulations keep growing, and we just added another Trillion, and what did we get? We don’t have to buy a different light bulb right now.

    Boehner need to go)

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    ( Remember it’s your civil right to not work, and still own a car, own a house, have free health insurance, receive food stamps, free cell phone, TV, computer, and free internet service)

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks. (They are doing a pretty good job of dumbing down the students, I doubt if many know anything about George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, or that the first American settlement about starved out due to Socialism, The colony may well have perished had it not been for the leadership of John Smith. He imposed strict discipline on the colonists. "Work or starve" was his motto.)

     

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers. (Done)


    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    (OWS Finance Committee works with a lawyer and an accountant to track finances; the group has a substantial amount of money from George Sorro’s Move On .org deposited at the Amalgamated Bank nearby, after first making deposits at the Lower East Side People's Federal Credit Union. In late October the General Assembly of Occupy Wall Street registered for tax exempt status as a Occupy Wall Street accepts tax-deductible donations.)

     

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions. (They are working on it)

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. (Thank God For FOX)

    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms. (Look Around, not much good stuff left)

    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art." (Done)

    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. (Done)

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    (Have You watched TV lately?)

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy." ( Same Sex Marriage?)

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

    (America’s first Patriot defenders of Freedom were our Ministers where are they now?)

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

    (Done)

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. (Done)

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." ("While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."

    George Washington

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture. (Marxism and Humanism are the predominant philosophies of America's education establishment, yet every day we send the public schools our most precious gift, our children, to be "educated." )

     

    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

    (Our schools are filled with sex education, political correctness, environmental extremism, global unity, diversity training (anti-American indoctrination)

     

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus. (Or the Progressive Movement)

    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    (In 1969, the House changed the committee's name to "House Committee on Internal Security". When the House abolished the committee in 1975, its functions were transferred to the House Judiciary Committee,)

     

    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI. (Or use it to your advantage, and place it under the control of Home Land Security)

    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions. (Done, President Obama, “We are Your Army”)


    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business. (Or take over bankrupted companies and hand it to your followers)

    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. (Or make it beneficial for illegitimate children and single mothers to receive better welfare handouts if the dead beat dad isn’t around except when he shows up to create another welfare benefit)

    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. (Except for generation welfare, in that case negative parental influence is great)

    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems. (Obama, Pelosi, and Reid all agree with the OWS protesters so it must be alright?)

    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

    (Did you every wonder why Carter gave away the Panama Canal? ... NASCO "Created the term 'International Trade Corridor')


     

    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike. (I think Obama is working on it)
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlkraatz View Post
    You want to be careful using that word entitlements. I paid into Social Security all my life. 46 years as a Tool and Diemaker. I paid my social security payment wheter I wanted to or not. It was mandatory. My social security payments was paid in full by November each year. I am retired now and have social security to supplement my income and medical costs. I paid for that. I am entitled to it regardles of what you think.
    Due to inflation I'm thinking our inputs to the gov'mnt will run out long before we are done taking social security payments. That's the big cover up ya know, people are out-living the money they put into the pot for a variety of reasons, inflation mostly along with our living longer, on average, nowadays. There used to be a dozen people working to support the average retiree, now it's believed to be three for every retiree. I will not put on the "I paid into it a little at a time and therefore I'm covered for taking big bucks for twenty or more years" blinders.
    1)"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." -Thomas Jefferson.
    2)"Imagine how gun control might be stomped if GOA or SAF had the (compromising) NRA's 4 million members!" -Me. http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/nraletter.htm

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    2011 Year-End Move-On Member Survey

    
    2011 Year-End Member Survey
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    Please give feedback on MoveOn's campaigns in 2011


    1. Our broad organizational mission is to use technology to help people engage in democracy to build a more progressive country. Do you feel MoveOn met that mission this year? 1 to 10,

    3

    Please explain: Progressivism hasn't advanced much since the 2010 election..


    2. We organized various events and actions throughout the year as part of our Jobs Not Cuts campaign. Which tactics were the most effective? Please select as many as you would like.

    Invest in America Speak-outs (February 24)
    Wisconsin Solidarity rallies/Rallies to save the American Dream (February 26)
    Defend the Dream actions (March 15)
    Who Should Pay? May recess actions (late May-early June)
    Tax Day: Make Them Pay actions (April 18)
    American Dream House Meetings (July 16-17)
    Jobs Not Cuts rallies (August 10)
    August 2011 recess actions (mid- to late-August)
    Stand for the Dream Actions (on-going)
    Make Wall Street Pay/Move Your Money actions (November 5)
    We Are The 99% Actions (November 17)
    99% Congressional Speak-Outs (December 1)

    Please explain: ( We Are The 99% Actions (November 17)
    This has received the most attention, where else can we crap in the street and get away with it.


    3. Looking back, which tactics were the least effective that you attended? Please select as many as you would like.

    Invest in America Speak-outs (February 24)
    Wisconsin Solidarity rallies/Rallies to save the American Dream (February 26)
    Defend the Dream actions (March 15)
    Who Should Pay? May recess actions (late May-early June)
    Tax Day: Make Them Pay actions (April 18)
    American Dream House Meetings (July 16-17)
    Jobs Not Cuts rallies (August 10)
    August 2011 recess actions (mid- to late-August)
    Stand for the Dream Actions (on-going)
    Make Wall Street Pay/Move Your Money actions (November 5)
    We Are The 99% Actions (November 17)
    99% Congressional Speak-Outs (December 1)

    Please explain: defend the dream was the only one I attended but Martin Luther King's I have a dream rally was much better.



    4. On a 1-10 scale, do you feel you are a part of the American Dream Movement?

    10

    Please explain: My Dream is the same America's Dream a new president.



    5. On a 1-10 scale, do you feel you are a part of the 99% movement?

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    Please explain: Once we destroy the 1% we will have complete control we don’t have to worry about jobs anymore at all everybody can be on welfare.



    6. What was your best moment with MoveOn in 2011?

    The Issue 2 union rally in Steubenville, I have never seen so many idiots in one place.


    7. Looking back at 2011, if you could change one thing about the campaigns MoveOn ran, what would it be?

    More toilets sooner.

    8. Do you have what you need (in terms of training and organizing resources) to do effective organizing?
    If yes, what has been useful? If no, what else would be useful?

    No, What is the new name for Acorn?



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