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  1. What do all of you think about this?

    I think I found the Congressional Transcript to the Hughes Amendment (Machine Gun Ban)!!!!! Code RED - AR15.COM

    There seems to be a great deal of involvement in other internet forums as well. Seems like someone found the congressional transcript that actually shows more noes then ayes for the hughes amendment recorded along with all the names of the congress and how they voted.

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  3. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by n00b View Post
    What do all of you think about this?

    I think I found the Congressional Transcript to the Hughes Amendment (Machine Gun Ban)!!!!! Code RED - AR15.COM

    There seems to be a great deal of involvement in other internet forums as well. Seems like someone found the congressional transcript that actually shows more noes then ayes for the hughes amendment recorded along with all the names of the congress and how they voted.
    Lets Repeal this !

    Everybody download copies and print them out and save them before it disappears...

    Lets Send copies to our Conservative Senators & Congressmen...

    U.S. Senate: Senators Home

    Representative Offices - United States House of Representatives, 111th Congress, 2nd Session

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  4. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Lets Repeal this !

    Everybody download copies and print them out and save them before it disappears...

    Lets Send copies to our Conservative Senators & Congressmen...

    U.S. Senate: Senators Home

    Representative Offices - United States House of Representatives, 111th Congress, 2nd Session
    On The Record ... When Ronald Reagan & the 99th Congress Sold Out The Constitution & America:
    http://www.iwilldefendtheconstitutio...Transcript.pdf

    Congressional Record of the 99th Congress...
    Advanced Bill Summary and Status Search for the 99th Congress - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    Download, Copy and distribute profusely and TAKE ACTION !

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke


  5. #145

    Gun Control: The Ultimate Human Rights Violation ...

    Lucid students of the political sphere have certainly noticed that liberals are now using the phrase “human rights” even more than they once used their old standby, “civil liberties.” Of course they rarely define human rights, and even when they try, the definition varies depending on the goal of the person that’s using the phrase.

    But this doesn’t stop them from having international conferences on human rights, dumping money into organizations like Human Rights Watch, and allowing surviving members of the Woodstock crowd to charge America’s military with violating human rights while simultaneously giving Iran a seat on the U.N.’s Women’s Rights Commission.

    Perhaps the two clearest threads in all the human rights jargon are the focus on international law coupled with a potent strain of anti-Americanism. This is a combination that can be deadly when accurately aimed at national sovereignty or individual rights.

    The most telling aspect of the left’s obsession with human rights is not so much what its proponents claim to defend but what they would be happy to sacrifice. And one thing all human rights activists are perpetually ready to jettison is the right Americans enjoy in keeping and bearing arms.

    Ironically, this right, summarily stated in the 2nd Amendment, should be the lynchpin of any honest pursuit of human rights. Thomas Jefferson made this clear when he equated a government-backed prohibition against defending one’s self with a government-backed denial of “the most basic of nature’s rights.”

    When one reads Jefferson’s statement in light of his many writings on nature’s laws and the benefits of private gun ownership, it’s clear he was implying that the denial of the right to self-defense with a firearm is essentially a denial of one of the core aspects of what it means to be human.

    In other words, gun control actually steals part of our humanity.

    How much worse of a human rights violation can exist than one that actually separates the “human” from the “rights”?

    None of this is hard to understand if we just imagine a woman who lives alone, and is being stalked by a dangerous man. She goes to a gun store to buy a handgun with which to protect herself, but because she lives in Chicago, Mayor Daley will not allow her to purchase a gun. Thus she goes home, and hopes the lock on her door will hold.

    When he’s ready, the stalker becomes an intruder who breaks the door open, assaults the woman, and then leaves with a smile on his face. After reflecting on the matter he realizes the woman has no means with which to defend herself, so he goes back for more, and in time, as his callousness increases, he goes back more frequently. He knows the woman is helpless to stop him because she has been denied that “most basic of nature’s rights.”

    In this scenario, how long would it be before the woman felt less and less like a woman and more and more like a dog? How long would it be before she had a thorough understanding of what Jefferson meant when he coupled gun control with the denial of a core aspect of what it means to human?

    America remains a shining city on a hill in this dark world, partly because we still have the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of our lives and property. In light of Jefferson’s writings, I don’t think I go too far in saying that this one freedom goes a long way in keeping our humanity intact.

    If you ever doubt the degree to which private gun ownership and the freedom to use those guns for self-defense upholds our humanness, just head on down to El Paso, Tex., where the murder rate is around 23 victims annually. Then lock up your gun in the United States and cross the border into Juarez, Mexico, where the natural right to keep and bear arms has long been suppressed and where the murder rate, at 2,500 to 3,000 annually, is startling.

    Once you get to Juarez, it won’t be long till you feel like the woman who sat in her apartment staring at the door, hoping the lock would hold up under pressure because it was the only line of defense she had against her assailant.

    Gun control could just be the ultimate human rights violation.

    And if we ever give up our guns in this great nation, we will ultimately give up our humanity.

    HUMAN EVENTS columnist A.W.R. Hawkins holds a Ph.D. in U.S. Military History from Texas Tech University. He will be a Visiting Fellow at the Russell Kirk Center for Cultural Renewal during the summer of 2010.

    Source:
    Gun Control: The Ultimate Human Rights Violation - HUMAN EVENTS

    The First Fundamental Principle of Constitutional Interpretation: Your Rights Don't Come From Government...
    Oath Keepers: CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC 101: YOUR RIGHTS DON’T COME FROM GOVERNMENT

    The Unabridged Second Amendment:
    http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/unabridged.2nd.html

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    I read in that Congressional_Transcript.pdf:

    YEAS - 292
    NAYS - 130
    NOT VOTING - 12

    Where's the mystery? There's no hidden agenda here. They clearly chose to ban and entire class of firearms.
    When they "Nudge. Shove. Shoot.",
    Don't retreat. Just reload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyInBlue View Post
    I read in that Congressional_Transcript.pdf:

    YEAS - 292
    NAYS - 130
    NOT VOTING - 12

    Where's the mystery? There's no hidden agenda here. They clearly chose to ban and entire class of firearms.
    That was a second vote on an amendment to the amendment, I think. The first vote on Hughes definitely failed.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by CathyInBlue View Post
    I read in that Congressional_Transcript.pdf:

    YEAS - 292
    NAYS - 130
    NOT VOTING - 12

    Where's the mystery? There's no hidden agenda here. They clearly chose to ban and entire class of firearms.
    Ok, lets try this again ... I recommend re-reading it (http://www.jacastrolaw.com/Files/Con...Transcript.pdf) end to end and see how the most anti-second amendment congressmen in u.s. history voted each time, then you will see the stink to to speak...

    ayes 124, noes 298, not voting 12 ...

    ayes 124
    ...Boxer...
    ...Levin...
    ...Rangel...
    ...Schumer...
    ...Waxman...
    ...Hughes...

    ayes 286, noes 136, not voting 12 ...

    NOES-136
    ...Boxer...
    ...Levin...
    ...Rangel...
    ...Schumer...
    ...Waxman...
    ...Hughes...

    yeas 292, nays 130, not voting 12 ...

    NAYS-130
    ...Boxer...
    ...Levin...
    ...Rangel...
    ...Schumer...
    ...Waxman...
    ...Hughes...

    The same Ethically challenged Charles Rangel that is now facing no small amount of legal charges & inquires declared as acting speaker of the house Hughes Amendment #777 passed when it clearly failed ...

    You will notice there is no-way in hell gun-banning Chucky Schumer & Barbara Boxer were EVER IN THE MAJORITY...

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyInBlue View Post
    Indiana General Assembly
    Indiana HB 1065, effective July 1, 2010 removes any question about the legality of attempts to confiscate my firearms in an emergency. It's not legal.

    Hence, anyone attempting to confiscate my firearms is a de facto criminal attempting to disarm me, and will be treated by me as such.
    They just now getting to that? Kentucky's had KRS 237.104 for about 4 years now, almost to the date, July 12th, 2006.

    I'm just yanking your chain. Actually that's great, glad to hear it.
    One must be wary of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Ok, lets try this again ... I recommend re-reading it (http://www.jacastrolaw.com/Files/Con...Transcript.pdf) end to end and see how the most anti-second amendment congressmen in u.s. history voted each time, then you will see the stink to to speak...

    ayes 124, noes 298, not voting 12 ...

    ayes 124
    ...Boxer...
    ...Levin...
    ...Rangel...
    ...Schumer...
    ...Waxman...
    ...Hughes...

    ayes 286, noes 136, not voting 12 ...

    NOES-136
    ...Boxer...
    ...Levin...
    ...Rangel...
    ...Schumer...
    ...Waxman...
    ...Hughes...

    yeas 292, nays 130, not voting 12 ...

    NAYS-130
    ...Boxer...
    ...Levin...
    ...Rangel...
    ...Schumer...
    ...Waxman...
    ...Hughes...

    The same Ethically challenged Charles Rangel that is now facing no small amount of legal charges & inquires declared as acting speaker of the house Hughes Amendment #777 passed when it clearly failed ...

    You will notice there is no-way in hell gun-banning Chucky Schumer & Barbara Boxer were EVER IN THE MAJORITY...
    Is there anyone that we could possibly send this to in order to challenge it? I don't think the actual transcript had ever been found. Could this possibly be used as new evidence for a person charged with possession of a machine gun to be released of all charges? I mean this is proof isn't it?

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