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View Poll Results: Do you support the amendment/repeal of the 1986 Class III Weapons Ban?

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  • Yes it is clearly a constitutional infringement and a Inalienable right.

    161 75.23%
  • Yes it is clearly a constitutional infringement.

    55 25.70%
  • No, only law enforcement and military should have Class III Weapons.

    3 1.40%
  • No, only law enforcement and military should have Class III or any kind of Weapons.

    1 0.47%
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Thread: Amend/Repeal Class III Ban - A Stepping Stone To Total Gun Confiscation

  1. Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    So if I understand you correctly, you instead of interpreting the Second Amendment as meaning "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"... and that you are entitled to be armed in equal or greater force then what may be brought against you, be it foreign or domestic, including but not limited to the TYRANNY OF YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT!
    PERIOD! as the Founding Fathers Clearly Did...

    YOU Instead believe that it means "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"... except if your zip code is x, or your firearm is capable of firing more then one bullet without being reloaded, which is actually one definition of a machine gun...

    Or that when the shot that was heard around the world was fired because the British tried to take Cannons and powder away from the Colonists, that the British were well within their rights to do so as well...

    NICE!

    You are in good Company! HITLER, STALIN, LENIN AND GUN BAN OBAMA AND COMPANY FEEL THE SAME WAY!
    That is not what I mean and anyone who thinks so is a total moron, No matter what you want or believe there are many millions who feel there should be some limitations. You do not need a class III machine gun. I may want one to play with. but we will never have that option. It is already starting to boil, the more the anti gun mob sees rants like yours the more they are able to exploit that as not being rational, as you being a scary person who needs to be controlled. The more People like you rant and wave your guns the more people switch to the other side. We will always be on the same side but different stance on how to get the job done.

    I voted that yes it is an infringement on the second, so is not being able to post porn on national TV against the 1st. Those are items we are going to have to live with. I have seen it in the past and we will see it again our Zealot ways will cost us in the end. It is much wiser approach to work from within, to convert those afraid of guns to our side by taking one shooting by stating facts from legitimate sources, being out front in a calm stable format. When was the last time you took someone who does not understand shooting?

    I admire your Zeal but I feel it in the long run it will do us more harm than good.

    There are sites our there that monitor sites like this then use our own words against us as being unstable whack jobs and if you read some of these posts you can see why.

    Take it to what ever level you wish but know this, this infringement will stay in place no way around it. that is a fact.

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  3. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by rockwerks View Post
    That is not what I mean and anyone who thinks so is a total moron, No matter what you want or believe there are many millions who feel there should be some limitations. You do not need a class III machine gun. I may want one to play with. but we will never have that option. It is already starting to boil, the more the anti gun mob sees rants like yours the more they are able to exploit that as not being rational, as you being a scary person who needs to be controlled. The more People like you rant and wave your guns the more people switch to the other side. We will always be on the same side but different stance on how to get the job done.

    I voted that yes it is an infringement on the second, so is not being able to post porn on national TV against the 1st. Those are items we are going to have to live with. I have seen it in the past and we will see it again our Zealot ways will cost us in the end. It is much wiser approach to work from within, to convert those afraid of guns to our side by taking one shooting by stating facts from legitimate sources, being out front in a calm stable format. When was the last time you took someone who does not understand shooting?

    I admire your Zeal but I feel it in the long run it will do us more harm than good.

    There are sites our there that monitor sites like this then use our own words against us as being unstable whack jobs and if you read some of these posts you can see why.

    Take it to what ever level you wish but know this, this infringement will stay in place no way around it. that is a fact.
    Spoken like a true Obama supporter!

    Either the Constitution matters or it does not!

    Just what part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you still not understand?

    YouTube - Alan Keyes on the Second Amendment and gun rights

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Spoken like a true Obama supporter!

    Either the Constitution matters or it does not!

    Just what part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you still not understand?
    I did not and dont support Obama but do you realize that there are about millions of Americans that do that also believe in the 2nd who do support Obama. I fight the good fights and understand the ones I can not win. Yes it is an infringement but that is the way it is, yes I know WHAT PART DONT YOU INDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I understand but am a realist and know that we would only get maybe 10 votes in all of the house to get this repealed.

    You do what you feel you need to do to keep the 2nd around and I will do what I do. good luck! I hope you do all you wish in your quest.

  5. #54
    wolfhunter Guest
    [QUOTE=rockwerks;72263]~~~ You do not need a class III machine gun. ~~~

    [QUOTE]

    Not only do we NEED access to every form of weapon that COULD be used against us, but our founding fathers recognized that need. ANY law that limits the types or quantities of weapons we can own is an excercise in tyranny. The fact that you don't feel the need for the ability to protect your family from a possible tyrranical government at any time shows that the nanny state has properly educated you.

  6. #55
    Following the unconstitutional 1986 Class III weapons ban... AKA: Firearm Owners Protection ACT of 1986 (What a oxymoron)

    Wayne LaPierre of the NRA stated, "Repealing the machine gun amendment...will be a high priority," and promised the NRA's members that the organization would "actively work toward the repeal of the recent machine gun ban and will take all necessary steps to educate the public on the sporting uses and legal ownership of automatic firearms."

    I see no continuing efforts by Wayne and or the NRA challenging the
    constitutionality or otherwise legality of this amendment...

    Moreover, applicable public education aforesaid...

    I ask that Wayne keep his word...

    Further, your support thereof...

    I personally have written every major gun magazine, the NRA, GOA, SAF and my representatives in Washington...

    We must hang together or assuredly we shall hang separately. -- Benjamin Franklin .

    If we do nothing, we can only say we did nothing -- George Washington

    Its time we started giving the Second Amendment the same attention we give the First... Governor Mike Huckabee...

  7. [quote=wolfhunter;72268][QUOTE=rockwerks;72263]~~~ You do not need a class III machine gun. ~~~


    Not only do we NEED access to every form of weapon that COULD be used against us, but our founding fathers recognized that need. ANY law that limits the types or quantities of weapons we can own is an excercise in tyranny. The fact that you don't feel the need for the ability to protect your family from a possible tyrranical government at any time shows that the nanny state has properly educated you.
    Because I can think for myself and am not paranoid about everything around me? LOL I will protect my family as I always have.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Following the unconstitutional 1986 Class III weapons ban... AKA: Firearm Owners Protection ACT of 1986 (What a oxymoron)

    Wayne LaPierre of the NRA stated, "Repealing the machine gun amendment...will be a high priority," and promised the NRA's members that the organization would "actively work toward the repeal of the recent machine gun ban and will take all necessary steps to educate the public on the sporting uses and legal ownership of automatic firearms."

    I see no continuing efforts by Wayne and or the NRA challenging the
    constitutionality or otherwise legality of this amendment...

    Moreover, applicable public education aforesaid...

    I ask that Wayne keep his word...

    Further, your support thereof...

    I personally have written every major gun magazine, the NRA, GOA, SAF and my representatives in Washington...

    We must hang together or assuredly we shall hang separately. -- Benjamin Franklin .

    If we do nothing, we can only say we did nothing -- George Washington

    Its time we started giving the Second Amendment the same attention we give the First... Governor Mike Huckabee...

    Funny you have a quote here about the 1st, the most abridged amendment we have. LOL

    We are hanging together, just separate routes to the same basic objective. You can rant and wave your banner in defiance and I will work to change the minds of others rather than scare them.

    I believe my view is best defined by the president who did the most protect our country. Theodore Roosevelt, "walk softly and carry a big stick".......

  9. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by rockwerks View Post
    Funny you have a quote here about the 1st, the most abridged amendment we have. LOL

    We are hanging together, just separate routes to the same basic objective. You can rant and wave your banner in defiance and I will work to change the minds of others rather than scare them.

    I believe my view is best defined by the president who did the most protect our country. Theodore Roosevelt, "walk softly and carry a big stick".......
    Interesting that you brought up the President that introduced us to Progressive Politics and the concept of a living Constitution...

    I will stick with the ones that got us here...

    Jefferson for example...

    ‘‘No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms"

    You go ahead and bring your big stick, keep your head up Obama's keister, and go quietly to the government run indoctrination camps and I will bring my legally owned and obtained machine guns and copy of the Constitution, to the Revolution when WE THE PEOPLE, DECIDE ITS TIME FOR A NEW DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, A NEW AMERICAN TEA PARTY... AND FREEDOM FROM THE TYRANNY OF THE BANKRUPTING USURPER IN THE WHITE HOUSE

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Interesting that you brought up the President that introduced us to Progressive Politics and the concept of a living Constitution...

    I will stick with the ones that got us here...

    Jefferson for example...

    ‘‘No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms"

    You go ahead and bring your big stick, keep your head up Obama's keister, and go quietly to the government run indoctrination camps and I will bring my legally owned and obtained machine guns and copy of the Constitution, to the Revolution when WE THE PEOPLE, DECIDE ITS TIME FOR A NEW DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, A NEW AMERICAN TEA PARTY... AND FREEDOM FROM THE BANKRUPTING USURPER IN THE WHITE HOUSE
    LOL

  11. #60
    ‘‘And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; or to raise standing armies, unless necessary for the defense of the United States, or of some one or more of them; or to prevent the people from petitioning, in a peaceable and orderly manner, the federal legislature, for a redress of grievances; or to subject the people to unreasonable searches and seizures of their persons, papers or possessions.’’
    — Samuel Adams

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