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    Smile Concealed Carry Reciprocity Amendment

    Received the following today.

    Senator Vitter To Offer Concealed Carry Reciprocity Amendment
    -- Action needed right away!

    Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
    8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
    Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
    http://www.gunowners.org

    Tuesday, May 13, 2008


    Senator David Vitter (R-LA) has filed a pro-gun amendment to HR 980,
    and it
    could be voted on as early as tomorrow!

    This amendment would protect the right of citizens to carry concealed
    weapons (outside of their home state) in states that allow concealed
    carry.

    Sen. Vitter explains that his amendment does not violate the rights of
    states as it "does NOT establish national standards for concealed
    carry, nor
    does it provide for a national carry permit."

    In other words, the Vitter amendment specifically says that state laws
    concerning specific types of locations in which firearms may not be
    carried
    shall be followed. "My amendment will not federalize concealed carry
    permits but simply requires concealed carry permits to be recognized in
    other states that allow concealed carry permits," Vitter said.

    This is a real reciprocity provision which grants citizens the
    "full faith
    and credit" protection that is guaranteed in Article IV of the
    Constitution.
    Section 1 of this article says:

    Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public
    Acts,
    Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the
    Congress
    may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts,
    Records, and
    Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

    Vitter says that this constitutional provision authorizes the Congress
    to
    pass legislation forcing each state to recognize the "public
    Acts" of other
    states. So if states are not willing to recognize another state's laws,
    Congress has the authority to pass laws to require recognition of those
    measures.

    It's just like with driver's licenses. If certain states refused to
    honor
    the driver's licenses of citizens in other states, Congress could pass
    legislation (under Article IV) to require every state to honor all
    licenses.


    ACTION: Please urge your Senators to vote for the Vitter amendment to
    HR
    980 to protect the right to carry concealed firearms outside of your
    home
    state.

    You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at
    http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Senators the
    pre-written
    e-mail message below. And, you can call your Senators at 202-224-3121
    or
    toll-free at 1-877-762-8762.


    ----- Pre-written letter -----

    Dear Senator:

    Please support the Vitter amendment to HR 980. This amendment will
    protect
    the right of citizens to carry firearms outside of their home state
    without
    violating the rights of other states. Thus, the Vitter language
    masterfully
    protects the principle of federalism while also promoting Second
    Amendment
    rights.

    A person's right to defend himself and his family should not end at the
    border of his state.

    I urge you to vote for the Vitter concealed carry amendment.

    Sincerely,
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Vitter Loses

    It looks like he lost. You can check it out here.

    http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=2&vote=00126

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    Lost

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruger Lady View Post
    It looks like he lost. You can check it out here.

    http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=2&vote=00126
    It would figure. To many left of Stalin senators.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    if at first you don't succeed...
    You can have my freedom as soon as I'm done with it!!!

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    There had to be something really bad added to the bill to go down like that. All the Nay's were Republicans! For my state I don't trust Graham, but I do trust DeMint and they both voted Nay!


    NAYs ---29
    Alexander (R-TN)
    Allard (R-CO)
    Barrasso (R-WY)
    Bennett (R-UT)
    Bond (R-MO)
    Brownback (R-KS)
    Bunning (R-KY)
    Burr (R-NC)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Cochran (R-MS)
    Corker (R-TN)
    Cornyn (R-TX)
    Craig (R-ID)
    Crapo (R-ID)
    DeMint (R-SC)
    Dole (R-NC)
    Ensign (R-NV)
    Enzi (R-WY)
    Graham (R-SC)
    Hutchison (R-TX)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Kyl (R-AZ)
    Lugar (R-IN)
    Roberts (R-KS)
    Sessions (R-AL)
    Shelby (R-AL)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Warner (R-VA)
    Wicker (R-MS)
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    To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them... -- Richard Henry Lee, 1787

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    Hm...both of my senators voted nay,also.
    I guess it MUST have been something bad stuck to it.
    Give everybody guns.
    Natural selection will cull out the idiots.

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    In my understanding,The vote was on [U]cloture[U]( ending debate and continuing without the amendment). By voting nay. they were voting for continuing consideration of the amendment.
    The more I practice, the 'luckier' I get!

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    The bill and the ammendment are still very much alive and some time in the future will be discussed. The previous votes were just votes to decide whether to argue some more or move on to some more BS.

  10. Hello all!

    I live in the state of Maryland, as you may or may not know, is a "May Issue" state. That basically means that unless you are rich, famous or well-connected, you cannot get a permit.

    My question is this:

    I am in the process of getting my non-resident Florida permit. If this amendment passes, will Maryland be forced to recognize my FL permit? Or will they refuse to honor it because I am not a Florida resident?

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    The Great State Of MD!

    Hi Tone,

    I am a resident of MD , and I have both the FL, and VA non-resident permits, which in total gives me 38 states to carry in. My Uncle is a Circuit Court Judge in Baltimore who has a permit hence his job, He's an avid shooter like most of my dads siblings, and fully disagrees with the States stance on our gun laws. He's Baffled at what the law did for FL, and notices differences between the states that surround us (Violent Crime Wise). Things happen in those states, but not like MD. Sorry but this wont mean anything as far as reciprocity in MD, as since MD wont honor sister states, They wont honor MD's permit. Some do, but most wont. So if you and I some day want it to happen we need to get maryland onboard as soon as possible. DO you have any of our states links to or gun laws etc?

    :icon_sick:

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