The So-Called Gun Show Loophole: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics
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    Cobbs Creek, VA

    The So-Called Gun Show Loophole: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics

    The So-Called Gun Show Loophole: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics
    By: John G. Malcolm
    There is a lot of misinformation circulating about background checks for gun ownership.
    Under the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act—which created the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)—all federal firearms licensees are required to conduct a background check for all firearms transactions, even if they sell the firearm at a gun show. This is to make sure that the gun isn’t being sold to a person who is prohibited from purchasing a gun under Section 922(g) or (n) of Title 18 of the United States Code, which would include convicted felons, people who have been adjudicated to be severely mentally ill, and people who have been convicted of a domestic violence offense.
    President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I), and scores of others have repeated the mantra that approximately 40 percent of all gun purchases are conducted through private sales at gun shows and are not subject to a criminal background check. This has become known as the “gun show loophole.”
    At a recent Senate hearing, Baltimore County Police Chief James Johnson went so far as to say, “Allowing 40 percent of those acquiring guns to bypass background checks is like allowing 40 percent of airline passengers to board a plane without going through airport security.”
    What gun control proponents never say, though, is that this oft-repeated statistic is based on stale data that was grossly exaggerated even when it was fresh.
    As The Washington Post has pointed out, this 40 percent figure comes from a 1997 report by the National Institute of Justice, a research agency within the Department of Justice, and was based on a telephone survey sample of just 251 people who acquired firearms in 1993 and 1994. This was years before the NICS system went into effect. Of the 251 participants, 35.7 percent said that they didn’t or “probably” didn’t obtain their gun from a licensed firearms dealer. Because the margin of error was +/– 6 percentage points, it was rounded up to 40 percent, although it could just as easily and legitimately have been rounded down below 30 percent.
    In addition, if you subtract people who said they got their gun as a gift, inheritance, or prize, the number dropped from 35.7 percent to 26.4 percent. And, in terms of how many people actually buy firearms at gun shows, the data from this same survey indicated that in 1994, only 3.9 percent of firearms purchases were made at gun shows.
    Citing this data as evidence of how many firearms are currently purchased through private sales not subject to background checks is akin to citing data about current seat belt usage that is derived from a limited sample taken years before a mandatory seat belt law went into effect or before cars were even required to have seat belts. We all know that, according to a phrase popularized by Mark Twain, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. Citing such limited and outdated data over and over again on a matter of this magnitude, however, is going too far.
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    SE FL and SE OH
    If stale data is the only thing the gun grabbers have, they will use it instead of newer data that proves them wrong.
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  4. I'm new here and truly love the posts here, they're really informative. Thanks for letting me join. I've been trying to post something here and would like some feed back concerning 2nd amend. rights.

    I'm a Veteran and when I have to travel over 100 miles to a Va Dr. appointment, and it's before 9:00 A.M. the Va will put me and my wife up in a nearby hotel the night before. I stay at a regular motel that has both regular guest and Veterans, staying in rooms right next to each other. Recently the hotel said the Va is now requiring all vets to read a form the Va has put out specifically for the vets and sign it. One of the items is a requirement that the regular guest doesn't have to adhere to, that being "No weapons or explosives in the Vets. room. I HAVE A CCPER. Why do civilians have more rights than I do? By-the-way, the form has a heading calling it a Hoptel.???? Does this have any significance? They're also telling us to clean up our trash, don't leave any newspapers in the room that the hotel provides everyone. Dang, I feel like I'm in the service again. Another thing, if I take a weapon with me on the back roads to the VA for protection... what am I supposed to do with my pistol when there's a sign at the Va that says "No weapons on the grounds." What happened to "your car is like your home" when it comes to a weapon, as long as it's unloaded? I'm stymied on this situation. (:-<

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    Mar 2011
    Western South Dakota
    That the VA is trying to control your actions in a private business is abhorrent. And probably not lawful. As long as you abide by the policies of the hotel, what business is it of theirs? I'd just ignore it.

    As to no firearms, no weapons, on VA property, well, that's just another symptom of how the Federal Government is the biggest of infringers. Hmm, maybe there's a class action lawsuit on behalf of all Vets festering here.
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