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    Quote Originally Posted by IheartTedNugent View Post
    Obama+2008= MY VOTE FOR PREZ!!!!!!
    You gotta be kidding me? You must not like having guns around... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissPriss View Post
    You gotta be kidding me? You must not like having guns around... lol
    Maybe a Brady bunch troll...
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    I vote NO BAMA in 08. Sounds like his talents would be more appreciated in communist China.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by festus View Post
    On the Second Amendment,

    Don’t Believe Obama!


    The presidential primary season is finally over, and it is now time for gun owners to take a careful look at just where apparent nominee Barack Obama stands on issues related to the Second Amendment. During the primaries, Obama tried to hide behind vague statements of support for “sportsmen” or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms.


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    But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties. Don’t listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career.



    FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

    FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

    FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

    FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

    FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

    FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

    FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

    FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

    FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

    FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8

    FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

    FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

    FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

    FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

    FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

    FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

    FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

    FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month sales restrictions.9

    FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

    FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

    FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9


    1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote)

    2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 2008. (Obama had greater role on liberal survey - Kenneth P. Vogel - Politico.com)

    3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote)

    4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, Political Punch, 2/15/08. (Political Radar: Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' on Gun Owners' Rights)

    5. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004 SB 2165, vote 20.

    6. In the Illinois Senate, Obama sponsored SB-1136, which would have amended Illinois licensing laws by increasing the requirements for the Illinois Firearm Owners Identification card. When asked about registration during the Nevada Democratic debate on January 17, 2008, Obama did not oppose it, but simply stated, “I don’t think that we can get that done.” (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/us...pagewanted=all)

    7. “Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review)

    8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

    9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (The Volokh Conspiracy - Obama and Gun Control:)

    10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

    11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

    12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (Radio Iowa: Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control)

    13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (The Swamp: Barack Obama: NIU shootings call for action)

    14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | UrbanPolicy.)

    15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (Barack Obama on Gun Control and Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes) Oct 21, 2004
    Lots of facts --but -- if something don't happen soon ----

    FACT -- Barack Obama will be our next president....

    I would not worry about him it is his wife America needs to fear......

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    If Bush is the worst pres in history, how come the dems cant come up with anyone beter to replace him? Anyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hat View Post
    Maybe a Brady bunch troll...
    Can't we be a little more tolerant of those with a difference of opinion? If he wants to vote for Obama, I won't give him a hard time about it except to remind him to be prepared for the consequences of his actions. Be careful of what you wish for; you just might get it. That also goes for those of us who are anti Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    Can't we be a little more tolerant of those with a difference of opinion? If he wants to vote for Obama, I won't give him a hard time about it except to remind him to be prepared for the consequences of his actions. Be careful of what you wish for; you just might get it. That also goes for those of us who are anti Obama.
    Thanks for approaching this the same way I would.

    I also try to remind people not to be critical of others points of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    Can't we be a little more tolerant of those with a difference of opinion? If he wants to vote for Obama, I won't give him a hard time about it except to remind him to be prepared for the consequences of his actions. Be careful of what you wish for; you just might get it. That also goes for those of us who are anti Obama.
    I am tolerant, I said maybe. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hat View Post
    I am tolerant, I said maybe. ;)
    My mistake. I stand corrected.

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    Don't worry,I don't believe Obama on ANYTHING,ESPECIALLY guns.
    Give everybody guns.
    Natural selection will cull out the idiots.

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