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    Take a pill to help a temporary problem, loose your 2A rights.

    Sounds ridiculous but it is happening in NY, yes NY again. Will that state ever get it right, will they ever start understanding the citizens have the rights not the government.
    Read and weep, long and hard.
    Get treated for a temporary mental illness and because you take medicine for relief you loose your rights to possess firearms.
    A Form of Gun Confiscation Has Reportedly Begun in New York State ? Here?s the Justification Being Used | TheBlaze.com
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    And how many people who need help with a temporary problem are going to forgo treatment for that very reason? Or refuse to let a family member get treatment? I'm guessing a lot.

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    So I am kind of curious...I live in WV and take Seroquel as a sleep aid. This drug isnt an SSRI but it was initially put out for schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder. The sleep aid was just an added benefit of the drug. It can be used in conjunction with SSRI's tho for depression, etc. Now the reason I stated I live in WV is b/c we are not (yet) dealing with these BS laws and gun-grab efforts like other states, but anyone think I should look to my Dr for another type of sleep aid?? I welcome any advice and/or input..........

  5. You know what's going to happen!

    People are going to stop taking their medication to keep their firearms, Then one by one when people snap because they are off their medication, People will blame the firearms even more!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeptemberSniper View Post
    So I am kind of curious...I live in WV and take Seroquel as a sleep aid. This drug isnt an SSRI but it was initially put out for schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder. The sleep aid was just an added benefit of the drug. It can be used in conjunction with SSRI's tho for depression, etc. Now the reason I stated I live in WV is b/c we are not (yet) dealing with these BS laws and gun-grab efforts like other states, but anyone think I should look to my Dr for another type of sleep aid?? I welcome any advice and/or input..........
    There are many, many drugs that have multiple uses, including those used to treat mental health disorders. Zyban, a medication that has been used successfully for years to help people quit smoking, is actually bupropion. You might know it by it's other common name, Wellbutrin. It's an antidepressant. It's usefulness in curbing smoking was discovered by accident. Variations of lithium are used to treat chronic headaches, etc., etc. The list goes on and on.
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    On a side note, Viagra (sildenafil) was discoverd by accident too. It was developed as a blood pressure medication. Then doctors started talking to each other about how reluctant their male patients were to switch to any other medication after being put on sildenafil. Some eventually realized this was happening too often to be a coincidence and started a study to discover the truth, and thus Viagra was born.
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    Most people will find that if they stop taking their meds., get some exercise, eat properly and cut back on drinking then they will feel much better.
    It also helps to go to the range and shoot at a Feinstein target (paper).

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    BIG NEWS in this case!!!
    Police wrongly pulled man's gun permit | WIVB.com

    And this!
    https://www.facebook.com/GunsAcrossAmericaNewYork

    ToJoanna Johnson-Smith



    New York State Police Admits It Got Wrong Man in Gun Confiscation Case

    In a surprising turnaround, New York State Police have admitted that they made a mistake when they confiscated the guns and suspended the permit of an Erie County resident on the grounds of mental health.

    Late Wednesday, Erie County, NY, released a statement (posted below) blaming the New York State Police for giving them bad information regarding the suspension of a pistol permit and demand to surrender firearms sent to Amherst resident David Lewis.

    (Mr. Lewis was not identified in our original story, his name has since been released in conjunction with court documents filed by his attorney, Jim Tresmond.)

    "Eerie County Clerk Chris Jacobs said that late today he received a call from the New York State Police informing him that they had provided information on the wrong person when they notified his office of someone whose permit should be suspended because of the new mental health provisions in New York's SAFE Act," the release begins.

    "When the State Police called to tell us they made a mistake and had the wrong person ... it become clear that the state did not do their job here and now we all look foolish," the release went on to say in a quote from Clerk Jacobs.

    Jacobs appeared on WBEN radio in Buffalo on Thursday morning and explained the details of this administrative debacle. Mr. Jacobs also delivered some pointed comments about how the law was written so badly that mistakes like this were bound to happen. He closed with some fairly damning statements and also asked the state to consider scrapping the bill and re-writing it.

    "When you write a piece of legislation in a vacuum, without having hearings, without talking to people about how it's going to implemented in the real world -- without jeopardizing people's rights, and putting an individual like this through a nightmarish experience, and infringe on their rights, you have to go back to the drawing board," he said. "And I encourage the legislative leadership here and mostly our governor to take a step back and say 'we didn't get it right' and let's change this."

    Read WBEN's full story on Jacobs here.

    After the press release was issued by the state, TheBlaze spoke with one of Mr. Lewis' attorney, Max Tresmond.

    "We won round one," he said, "round two will be a suit against the state for what they did to our client and his reputation."

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    The thing that is worrying me is that they claim it was a case of MISTAKEN IDENTITY! So we can still expect more of this????NOT an IMPROPER use of the LAW?

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    And the unintended consequences is that the person that knows they need help will not seek it. Politicians are proving themselves to be the stupidest group of people on the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titaniumman View Post
    BIG NEWS in this case!!!
    Police wrongly pulled man's gun permit | WIVB.com

    And this!
    https://www.facebook.com/GunsAcrossAmericaNewYork

    ToJoanna Johnson-Smith



    New York State Police Admits It Got Wrong Man in Gun Confiscation Case

    In a surprising turnaround, New York State Police have admitted that they made a mistake when they confiscated the guns and suspended the permit of an Erie County resident on the grounds of mental health.

    Late Wednesday, Erie County, NY, released a statement (posted below) blaming the New York State Police for giving them bad information regarding the suspension of a pistol permit and demand to surrender firearms sent to Amherst resident David Lewis.

    (Mr. Lewis was not identified in our original story, his name has since been released in conjunction with court documents filed by his attorney, Jim Tresmond.)

    "Eerie County Clerk Chris Jacobs said that late today he received a call from the New York State Police informing him that they had provided information on the wrong person when they notified his office of someone whose permit should be suspended because of the new mental health provisions in New York's SAFE Act," the release begins.

    "When the State Police called to tell us they made a mistake and had the wrong person ... it become clear that the state did not do their job here and now we all look foolish," the release went on to say in a quote from Clerk Jacobs.

    Jacobs appeared on WBEN radio in Buffalo on Thursday morning and explained the details of this administrative debacle. Mr. Jacobs also delivered some pointed comments about how the law was written so badly that mistakes like this were bound to happen. He closed with some fairly damning statements and also asked the state to consider scrapping the bill and re-writing it.

    "When you write a piece of legislation in a vacuum, without having hearings, without talking to people about how it's going to implemented in the real world -- without jeopardizing people's rights, and putting an individual like this through a nightmarish experience, and infringe on their rights, you have to go back to the drawing board," he said. "And I encourage the legislative leadership here and mostly our governor to take a step back and say 'we didn't get it right' and let's change this."

    Read WBEN's full story on Jacobs here.

    After the press release was issued by the state, TheBlaze spoke with one of Mr. Lewis' attorney, Max Tresmond.

    "We won round one," he said, "round two will be a suit against the state for what they did to our client and his reputation."
    So much for the claim that these laws will not effect law abiding gun owners!

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