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    Big news from New York State on the idiot gun law recently passed......

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    I think by now most of New York State gun enthusiasts know the Tresmond name. Max Tresmond posted this news a few hours ago :

    "No, I just broke the news. I cannot release anything further. I'm just going to say, to everyone in America who thought the "New York gun grab" was a conspiracy theory - those who always knew the truth have been vindicated. Heads are going to roll - this goes far beyond the second amendment."


    Further from WBEN Radio :

    Cuomo ordered formation of State Police squad to search HIPAA protected records. It's a violation of our 4th Amendment. Anybody who sought Mental Health help or prescribed Anti-anxiety drugs within the last 10yrs will have their permits/ pistols confiscated.

    I guess not a surprise for most of us NYS gun owners !


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    Wonder how many drug taking police officers will have theirs confiscated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare45 View Post
    Wonder how many drug taking police officers will have theirs confiscated?
    Good question....Probably none I'm guessing....
    We the people should confiscate some of the power that many of our drug taking (mentally ill) politicians have imvho.
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    There are some issues with this story. Regarding personal medical care, there is no repository to show who gets medical care, who their doctor is and what treatments are provided. So I'm not sure what records can be searched with or without HIPAA. My doctor hand-writes his notes in the chart and puts it back in the file. It's not online. The state has no knowledge who my doctor is or what medical care is received. I believe perhaps this all gets started when a doctor makes a report against one of his patients.
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    In any event I believe a lawsuit is in order against the county and judge. This unconstitutional behavior must be stopped right at the start.
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    Wondering how many senators and congressmen AREN'T on meds, legal or illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    Good question....Probably none I'm guessing....
    We the people should confiscate some of the power that many of our drug taking (mentally ill) politicians have imvho.
    Perhaps there should be a breathalizer test issued before any member of Congress can enter the capital building... line-up to blow. Show-up drunk and your district loses representation in Congress. Let the people recall their elected drunks. How about a mental health screening and regular urine test for members of Congress.
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  8. Honestly its simple. If you used insurance at any time then they can get it from the insurance company or they can get it from drug stores where you filled your prescription. I'm sure they will have a "legal document" that says the stores have to give up the information. They don't need to get it from just the Docs and I guarantee all of the Pharmacy and Insurance companies are databased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    There are some issues with this story. Regarding personal medical care, there is no repository to show who gets medical care, who their doctor is and what treatments are provided. So I'm not sure what records can be searched with or without HIPAA.
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    It appears a lot of it is coming from this. Since April 19, 2006, Public Health Law requires that all prescriptions written in New York State be issued on an official New York State prescription form. These are NYS supplied (bar-coded) prescription blanks. There are no longer any different blanks for different classes of drugs. Information from these blanks is transmitted to the State for all control drugs (not just narcotics). This includes hundreds of non-narcotic drugs commonly used for hundreds of different conditions. NYS has a record of prescriptions written for people by their doctors. Only the scripts ...... not a reason for issuing them. Anxiety meds can be prescribed for many different things, not just mental illness.

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    So basically, HIPAA is useless and we can expect the ACLU to do nothing, even if it's a 4th amendment issue. Where is the NRA on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macmanjim View Post
    So basically, HIPAA is useless and we can expect the ACLU to do nothing, even if it's a 4th amendment issue. Where is the NRA on this?
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    This story is like a snow ball rolling down a hill. It is now being reported that there are inside whistle blowers and this thing goes past Cuomo (to Homeland Security ?). They believe they have a way to circumvent the HIPAA laws and New York State is the template for the entire country. Really dangerous stuff going on here ......

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