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    Quote Originally Posted by mappow View Post
    I guess my question is HOW did free men, that believe in God of the Bible, ever allow this to happen?
    Cheer up, all are Signs of the End of the Age & This Last Generation. What we are experiencing today is the Great Falling Away (APOSTASY) of the Last Days Church of Laodicea that Jesus warned us about. The Laodicean (lukewarm) Church that Jesus said that He would spew (puke) from His mouth just prior to the Rapture of His Church. Yesterday's Prophesies, Today's Headlines. Maranatha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyj View Post
    Other than the return of the Christ, SECESSION is the only hope for what once passed as the us.
    By the return of the Christ, are you referencing the Rapture or His Second Coming?
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    Hahaha.... oh man... suprise, suprise huh? Nah, get ready to trade your freedom for their control.

    Socialism, Fascism, Communism or Marxism... call it whatever you want... we're well on our way.
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    Obama does NOT "welcome a discussion"... all he wants is to tell us to shut up while he decrees how it will be.

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    And how it will be is Obama and his ilk will continue to foment fear and use the promise of providing "security" to remove all "liberty" and install the .gov as the iron fist ruler of the commoners.

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    Look at it from their perspective: (NSA - CIA - Justice Dept - IRS- White House)

    The current administration is being run by minorities out to serve swift social justice for 300 years of oppression by white folk.

    Holder and company are out to protect the administration vs the American People now that the war on terrorism has been won by Obama. They view the People of America as the threat.

    They have power and they are freaking using it. The hell with the rule of law and constitution, (except for the their own use of the Fifth)
    Any Federal employee that pleads the Fifth in a congressional hearing should be stripped of all pension rights - fired - and fined.
    It would be like refusing to talk to your boss at work.

    Anyway these people view any disagreement with the Administration as a threat, in the new land of the free and home of the brave.

    It would make me angry if being an angry white guy didn't put you on some kind of government watch list.

    You can be black and be angry and you can be Latino and be angry and you can be Muslim and be angry but the rest of us have no right to be angry and if you show anger, BAM! you are labeled with some kind of moniker and marginalized.
    Tolerance of the intolerant leads to the destruction of tolerance. “You are also reminded that any inappropriate remarks or jokes concerning security may result in your arrest,” in the land of the free.

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    This has been a topic of conversation on the Sunday TV talk shows. About half of the Republicans and 90 % of the democrats think that this data mining is perfectly alright and Constitutional. People whom I normally respect, like John Bolton, feel this way. There is a quote from Franklin that pretty well expresses the way that most of the founders would have felt about this "Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. "

    The government has been using the fears of the irrational sheep to seriously limit our privacy and individual liberty. What in the hell has happened to the pioneer spirit of Americans? There was a time only a few years ago when Americans were risk takers. In spite of danger or adversity, the people of this country were willing to risk everything to preserve liberty and advance themselves and this country.

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    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    Ben Franklin

    Nuff said

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoJo View Post
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    Ben Franklin
    The damage is already done. Liberty & Safety are a thing of the past. We are rapidly approaching our destiny, the NWO. All are Signs of the End of the Age & This Last Generation, just like The Book says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    The damage is already done. Liberty & Safety are a thing of the past. We are rapidly approaching our destiny, the NWO. All are Signs of the End of the Age & This Last Generation, just like The Book says.
    I pray you're wrong but I think you're right.

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    Well said by all and Right on!

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