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    Hi capacity magazines and "Assault" rifles not covered by the Second Ammendment in NY

    Well that's the argument being set forward by the state in response to the NYSRPA lawsuit. You would think the amendment was self explanatory wouldn't you?

    Capitol Confidential Kathleen Rice, James Sheppard line up for SAFE Act

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    I'll turn mine in right after the military surrenders its weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSlick View Post
    I'll turn mine in right after the military surrenders its weapons.
    How about you add the DHS to that too. I worry less about the military than I do the civilian run thugs with guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD13 View Post
    Well that's the argument being set forward by the state in response to the NYSRPA lawsuit. You would think the amendment was self explanatory wouldn't you?

    Capitol Confidential Kathleen Rice, James Sheppard line up for SAFE Act
    Looks like they need a copy editor.
    Rice and Kevin Bruen, the State Police lawyer, argue assault rifles are ill-suited for home defense because their rounds can easily pierce walls and injure family members. Shotguns, Bruen rights, are preferable. In a statistical analysis of crime data conducted by Lucy Allen, an economist, the state estimated the odds of a multiple-intruder home invasion at less than one in 20 million, per year.

    And per the Miller case in 1939 before the SCOTUS, the state of NY is wrong. Sawed off shotguns are banned without a tax stamp because they weren't military style weapons. A point the court made clear at that time.
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    Hi capacity magazines and "Assault" rifles not covered by the Second Ammendme...

    Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    How about you add the DHS to that too. I worry less about the military than I do the civilian run thugs with guns.
    Don't forget about the IRS! They now own and are training with AR15's and Shotguns....


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  7. I get the impression that NY isn't very bright; the metro areas, anyway.

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    Any time legal officials put forth opinions like this, it is not for the purpose of interpreting or clarifying the Constitution. It is expressly for the purpose of limiting the natural individual rights guaranteed by the Constitution. Progressives hate the Constitution because it is not compatible with their socialist Utopian ideas.

    According to the Federalist Papers and the writings of our founders, particularly Jefferson, the second amendment is for the express purpose of protecting the Republic. The founders worried that all governments eventually became tyrannical. They wanted a armed citizenry with numbers and weapons capable of holding any standing army in check. The second had nothing to with self protection or hunting since no one ever considered that those activities would ever be in danger. Owning a military style firearm wasn't only a right but a duty of free men. They had just fought a revolution that started as a direct result of British attempts to confiscate the colonist's weapons.

  9. Need to look at history, one of the main things starting the Revolutionary war was when the British tried to ban the colonists from owning the same musket that was the top of the line issued to the British military at the time. The intent of the 2nd amendment was to guarantee the right to own and carry the same weapons currently used by the military, and we should be able to buy a new M4. Even the NFA title II laws are Unconstitutional, they used the technicality of making it a "transfer tax" to slide it threw. When they passed the law preventing new full autos from being transferable, to help get it passed they included a ban on gun registration, making that against federal law. If they want to enforce a federal gun law, send the Feds to all the places with the illegal gun registration, they can start by cuffing Bloomberg in NY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    Looks like they need a copy editor.


    And per the Miller case in 1939 before the SCOTUS, the state of NY is wrong. Sawed off shotguns are banned without a tax stamp because they weren't military style weapons. A point the court made clear at that time.
    Rice and Kevin Bruen, the State Police lawyer, argue assault rifles are ill-suited for home defense because their rounds can easily pierce walls and injure family members. Shotguns, Bruen rights, are preferable
    .

    If they're really worried about over penetration, shotguns using buckshot can penetrate 2 inside walls and still have enough power to seriously injury or kill a person on the other side of the walls. Unless the shotgun is using field loads and then they can still be injured. So, if they want to really protect us from over penetration maybe we should use bb guns.
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