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    We are not coming back

    We Are Not Coming Back

    This provocative article by a Jewish Rabbi from Teaneck , N.J. is far and away the most succinct and thoughtful explanation of how our nation is changing. The article appeared in The Israel National News, and is directed to Jewish readership. 70% of American Jews vote as Democrats. The Rabbi has some interesting comments in that regard.

    Rabbi Steven Pruzansky is the spiritual leader of Congregation Bnai Yeshurun in Teaneck, New Jersey


    "The most charitable way of explaining the election results of 2012 is that Americans voted for the status quo - for the incumbent President and for a divided Congress. They must enjoy gridlock, partisanship, incompetence, economic stagnation and avoidance of responsibility. And fewer people voted.

    But as we awake from the nightmare, it is important to eschew the facile explanations for the Romney defeat that will prevail among the chattering classes. Romney did not lose because of the effects of Hurricane Sandy that devastated this area, nor did he lose because he ran a poor campaign, nor did he lose because the Republicans could have chosen better candidates, nor did he lose because Obama benefited from a slight uptick in the economy due to the business cycle.

    Romney lost because he didn't get enough votes to win.

    That might seem obvious, but not for the obvious reasons. Romney lost because the conservative virtues - the traditional American virtues – of
    liberty, hard work, free enterprise, private initiative and aspirations to moral greatness - no longer inspire or animate a majority of the electorate.

    The simplest reason why Romney lost was because it is impossible to compete against free stuff.

    Every businessman knows this; that is why the "loss leader" or the giveaway is such a powerful marketing tool. Obama's America is one in which free stuff is given away: the adults among the47,000,000 on food stamps clearly recognized for whom they should vote, and so they did, by the tens of millions; those who - courtesy of Obama - receive two full years of unemployment benefits (which, of course, both disincentivizes looking for work and also motivates people to work off the books while collecting their windfall) surely know for whom to vote. The lure of free stuff is irresistible.

    The defining moment of the whole campaign was the revelation of the secretly-recorded video in which Romney acknowledged the difficulty of winning an election in which "47% of the people" start off against him because they pay no taxes and just receive money - "free stuff" - from the government.

    Almost half of the population has no skin in the game - they don't care about high taxes, promoting business, or creating jobs, nor do they care that the money for their free stuff is being borrowed from their children
    and from the Chinese.

    They just want the free stuff that comes their way at someone else's expense. In the end, that 47% leaves very little margin for error for any Republican, and does not bode well for the future.

    It is impossible to imagine a conservative candidate winning against such overwhelming odds. People do vote their pocketbooks. In essence, the people vote for a Congress who will not raise their taxes, and for a President who will give them free stuff, never mind who has to pay for it.

    That engenders the second reason why Romney lost: the inescapable conclusion that the electorate is ignorant and uninformed. Indeed, it does not pay to be an informed voter, because most other voters - the clear majority – are unintelligent and easily swayed by emotion and raw populism. That is the indelicate way of saying that too many people vote with their hearts and not their heads. That is why Obama did not have to produce a second term agenda, or even defend his first-term record. He needed only to portray Mitt Romney as a rapacious capitalist who throws elderly women over a cliff, when he is not just snatching away their cancer medication, while starving the poor and cutting taxes for the rich.

    During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Adlai Stevenson: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Stevenson called back: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"
    Truer words were never spoken.

    Obama could get away with saying that "Romney wants the rich to play by a different set of rules" - without ever defining what those different rules were; with saying that the "rich should pay their fair share" - without ever defining what a "fair share" is; with saying that Romney wants the poor, elderly and sick to "fend for themselves" - without even acknowledging that all these government programs are going bankrupt, their current insolvency only papered over by deficit spending.

    Similarly, Obama (or his surrogates) could hint to blacks that a Romney victory would lead them back into chains and proclaim to women that their abortions and birth control would be taken away. He could appeal to Hispanics that Romney would have them all arrested and shipped to Mexico and unabashedly state that he will not enforce the current immigration laws. He could espouse the furtherance of the incestuous relationship between governments and unions - in which politicians ply the unions with public money, in exchange for which the unions provide the politicians with votes, in exchange for which the politicians provide more money and the unions provide more votes, etc., even though the money is gone.

    Obama also knows that the electorate has changed - that whites will soon be a minority in America (they're already a minority in California) and that the new immigrants to the US are primarily from the Third World and do not share the traditional American values that attracted immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is a different world, and a different America . Obama is part of that different America , knows it, and knows how to tap into it. That is why he won.

    Obama also proved again that negative advertising works, invective sells, and harsh personal attacks succeed. That Romney never engaged in such diatribes points to his essential goodness as a person; his "negative ads" were simple facts, never personal abuse - facts about high unemployment, lower take-home pay, a loss of American power and prestige abroad, a lack of leadership, etc. As a politician, though, Romney failed because he did not embrace the devil's bargain of making unsustainable promises.

    It turned out that it was not possible for Romney and Ryan - people of substance, depth and ideas - to compete with the shallow populism and platitudes of their opponents. Obama mastered the politics of envy – of class warfare - never reaching out to Americans as such but to individual groups, and cobbling together a winning majority from these minority groups. If an Obama could not be defeated - with his record and his vision of America , in which free stuff seduces voters - it is hard to envision any change in the future.

    The road to Hillary Clinton in 2016 and to a European-socialist economy - those very economies that are collapsing today in Europe - is paved.

    For Jews, mostly assimilated anyway and staunch Democrats, the results demonstrate again that liberalism is their Torah. Almost 70% voted for a
    president widely perceived by Israelis and most committed Jews as hostile to Israel . They voted to secure Obama's future at America 's expense and at Israel 's expense - in effect, preferring Obama to Netanyahu by a wide margin.

    A dangerous time is ahead. Under present circumstances, it is inconceivable that the US will take any aggressive action against Iran and will more
    likely thwart any Israeli initiative. The US will preach the importance of negotiations up until the production of the first Iranian nuclear weapon - and then state that the world must learn to live with this new reality.

    But this election should be a wake-up call to Jews. There is no permanent empire, nor is there an enduring haven for Jews anywhere in the exile. The American empire began to decline in 2007, and the deterioration has been exacerbated in the last five years. This election only hastens that decline.
    Society is permeated with sloth, greed, envy and materialistic excess. It has lost its moorings and its moral foundations.. The takers outnumber the givers, and that will only increase in years to come.

    The "Occupy" riots across this country in the last two years were mere dress rehearsals for what lies ahead - years of unrest sparked by the increasing discontent of the unsuccessful who want to seize the fruits and the bounty of the successful, and do not appreciate the slow pace of redistribution.

    If this election proves one thing, it is that the Old America is gone. And, sad for the world, it is not coming back."

    The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.
    'I God, Woodrow, it's been quite a party, ain't it?

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    May 2012
    north east Iowa
    The Rabbi is exactly right. All democracies and republics end in exactly the same way. I can remember a professor telling the class almost 50 years ago that any government will collapse when more people receive money from government than pay into it. This group is not just composed of welfare recipients but employees, military, and Social Security recipients. And no, I am not saying that those who work for government or receive SS are collecting welfare. They earn their pay and benefits.

    If drastic changes are not made the United States will collapse in a few years. And socialism is not the solution but the cause. The problem is not the politicians or bureaucrats, but we the voters. It is virtually impossible to change the morals, attitudes, and understanding of economics of such a large group of people. But our survival depends on that change. The collapse of Western Civilization may be unavoidable without earth shaking change. There are too many receiving government largesse and will resist the change that is necessary to save this country.

    We were given a blueprint for saving the U.S..That document is the Constitution. But a return to constitutional principles would be very painful. We are no longer the moral, God fearing, bold, and pioneering people who created this country. The majority of our citizens have become amoral sheep, who depend on government and the labor of others.

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    You are both so right. Normally in an election year when there's been such a poor economy and scandals like there has been, the non-incumbent party would have the advantage. And 2016 should be no different. However, I think there's too many uninformed voters among us now and too many lazy gimme-gimme types to see these as major problems. I'm afraid by now they're too entitled-minded to vote for anyone that won't promise more freebies.

    Sadly, I have no answers. And I can only see it getting worse. I know for a fact that illegal aliens that come here have a network of other illegal aliens to show them how to get anything they want for free. And I do mean anything. You name it, they get it for free and we pay for it. They don't all come here to work, unless by work, you mean work the system. And legalizing millions of them won't change that. End of off-topic rant.

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    "If this election proves one thing, it is that the Old America is gone. And, sad for the world, it is not coming back."
    Maybe. I'm not throwing in the towel just yet.
    "The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
    True enough.

  6. #5
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    ARIZONA-a short distance from the sun
    America is finished. We as a nation have turned our back on God. We have kicked Him out of our schools and out of the public arena. We have declared Him to be off-limits. We have given the boot to the very One who made us great and showered us with blessings. We are in the process of becoming a thoroughly secular and pagan nation. And in the process, we are courting the wrath of God. Remember the promise to fundamentally transform America? Well it’s happening. From a Constitutional Republic to part of a one world totalitarian government─destined to be ruled by the Antichrist. In simple terms, it is the illegal overthrow of our form of government by those within the government. They are globalists and elitists who have no allegiance to you, this country, the Constitution or to God. The rules of decency and fair play that you live by don’t exist with these people. The U.S. is being purposefully and methodically destroyed. All are Signs of the End of the Age & this Last Generation, signs that the "Fools by Choice" willfully continue to ignore.

    Just A "Few" Reasons Why We Are Not Coming Back.

    Since 1973, we have murdered our babies in their mothers' wombs at the rate of 4,000 a day, totaling nearly 60 million, and their blood cries out for vengeance.
    We consume more than one-half of all the illegal drugs produced in the world, yet we constitute only 5% of the world's population.

    We spend $2.8 billion dollars per year on Internet pornography, which is more than half the world total of $4.9 billion.

    Our rate of cohabiting partners has increased tenfold since 1960, totaling over 12 million unmarried partners today.

    Our divorce rate is the highest of any nation in the world.

    Forty percent of our children are born to unmarried women.

    We spend over $100 billion per year on gambling.

    Our number one drug problem is alcohol, producing over 17.6 million adults who are alcoholics or who have alcohol problems.

    Our nation has become a debt junkie, leading the world in both government debt and personal debt.

    Blasphemy of God's name, His Word, and His Son has become commonplace in our media.

    We are the moral polluter of planet earth through the distribution of our immoral, violent and blasphemous television programs and movies.

    We have forsaken the nation of Israel, demanding that they surrender their heartland and divide their capital city.

    We have become a nation that calls good evil and evil good. And we are paying the price:

    Our schools have become arenas of deadly violence.

    Our prison population is increasing exponentially, from 500,000 in 1980 to over 2.5 million today. Over 7.2 million of our people are under some form of correctional supervision.

    Over 1.5 million of our women are reported victims of domestic violence each year, and it is estimated that the majority of cases are never reported.

    We are currently averaging over 3 million child abuse cases each year, involving 6 million children.

    We experience more than 12 million crimes every year, more than any other nation in the world.

    Teen violence has increased exponentially, with youngsters killing each other over tennis shoes.

    Gangs are terrorizing our cities.

    Even the nicest of our neighborhoods are no longer safe, requiring us to protect our homes with security systems and weapons.

    Our money is becoming increasingly worthless.

    Our economy is being choked to death by a pile of debt that is beyond comprehension.

    Our major corporations and labor unions are in bondage to greed.

    Our society has become deeply divided, splintered among competing groups defined by racial, religious and economic factors.

    Our families are being destroyed by an epidemic of divorce.

    Our entertainment industry consists of vulgarians amusing barbarians.

    Our universities and media outlets are controlled by radical leftists who hold God in contempt.

    Our federal government has become top-heavy with bureaucrats who are insensitive to taxpayers.

    Our politicians have become more concerned with power than service.

    All levels of government have become increasingly oppressive, seeking to regulate every aspect of our lives.

    Taxation has become confiscatory in nature.

    Our legal system has been hijacked by activists who desire to impose their will on the people, regardless of what the people desire.

    Our freedom of speech is being threatened by "hate crime" legislation.

    Our forms of sports are becoming increasingly violent, reminiscent of the gladiators of ancient Rome.

    Our society has become star-stuck, more interested in celebrities than people of integrity.

    Our churches are caught up in an epidemic of apostasy as they set aside the Word of God in an effort to cozy up to the world and gain its approval.

    We are experiencing one major natural disaster after another in unprecedented volume and ferocity.

    We have become afflicted with a plague of sexual perversion, producing an army of hard core militant homosexuals.

    In summary, we are a people who have become desensitized to sin, and in the process, we have forgotten how to blush.

    Those People Who Will Not Be Governed By God Will Be Ruled By Tyrants.
    ~William Penn

    ~ The Best News The World Has Ever Heard Came From A Cemetery ~

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    May 2012
    north east Iowa
    I know my posts are often very pessimistic but I tend to agree with Putin that we are most likely headed for a break up of the U.S. as all of us have always known it. Even today we face an extreme dichotomy in this country. There is a division between rural and urban, the moral and moral relativists, the self sufficient and dependant, the atheists and the religious. and the intellectual elite and the practical. Obama, as a self appointed member of the sophisticated, intellectual elite said it himself when he referred to those clinging to God and their guns.

    The North East, West Coast, and major metropolitan areas such as Chicago are probably already lost. But rural areas (about 80% of the land area) still is full of these unsophisticated red necks who love God, their country, and family. The progressives, the elite, long ago abandoned the belief in God, morality, and faith in individual liberty and the U.S. Constitution. The unsophisticated rural people are often the objects of ridicule by the by these progressives. But those who will survive the collapse will be the people who hold the same values and faith as those who fought the Revolutionary War and founded this country. And there are still many of those people left.

    We will face some terrible trials in the future but I still have some faith that eventually the faithful, the moral, and the self sufficient will eventually win out. I believe in a just God and that portends terrible times for the majority in the U.S. But there are still many others who live a quiet, moral, and religious lives. These good men will eventually stand in opposition to the terrible evil that is appears to be consuming this country.

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    My messages are only pessimistic if one is an unbeliever or simply ignorant of God's Word. I'm just glad that I do more than believe "IN" God, I choose to "BELIEVE" God.."I tell you the TRUTH, this generation will CERTAINLY not pass away until ALL of these things have happened". Jesus doesn't lie, neither is He the "author of confusion". Jesus makes it very clear that we are living in the final days of the LAST DAYS of this Last Generation. If you’ve been awake at all, surely you can see that we’re being set up to be ruled by a Marxist government. Spiritually, America is being devoured from within and will fall. We are not mentioned as a major player in end-time prophecy, so we can logically conclude this country will no longer be a superpower. We’re being weakened and moved out of the way to help facilitate the New World Order. This will entail the commissioning of officers for “times of national crisis,” those who will work directly for the president! Oh, you didn’t hear about this? Well, it’s right there, plain as day in the Health Care bill! ObamaCare, HR3590.AS SEC. 5210. Establishing a Ready Reserve Corps. These soldiers will control the population in America. These things are happening in America right now and are the precise steps always taken to move societies into Marxism. Hitler used them. Mussolini used them. Pol Pot used them. And they are being instituted by our own corrupt, wicked government to ready America for the New World Order─whose supreme leader will be the antichrist.

    Even though the people living around Noah had 120 years worth of warnings regarding the doom that was to come upon the whole earth, they went about their business and basically ignored him, "Fools by Choice", never comprehending the danger they were in. They grew deaf to his warnings. People alive today have had over 2000 years worth of warnings from the Bible regarding what would happen in the LAST DAYS. Most aren’t listening now either. They are caught-up in their wonderful little lives, enjoying the sin du jour, living how they please regardless of what anyone else thinks. So go ahead, stick your head back up your rear end and enjoy living in your fantasy world while you can, make sure you keep up with Kim Kardashian, keep on watching to see who wins America’s Got Talent. Keep getting all your news from the Marxist media who feeds you only what they want you to know, to keep you calm and compliant. The dreams you had for retirement and for your kid’s future are GONE. They are already dead; you just haven’t fully woken-up enough to comprehend it yet. "Fools by Choice" stubborn and foolish enough to ignore the warnings that have been given for 2000 years deserves to stay here and tough it out. Have at it. Live life on your own terms for the little bit of time you have left but be prepared to suffer the consequences of your own stupidity.

    I don’t know about the rest of you but I choose to "BELIEVE" God, therefor I won't be here,I’m going home, very, very soon!

    Those People Who Will Not Be Governed By God Will Be Ruled By Tyrants.
    ~William Penn
    ~ The Best News The World Has Ever Heard Came From A Cemetery ~

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