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    Not upholding their oath to the constitution

    I believe there should be a legal way to prosecute politicians that swore an oath to uphold the constitution yet undermine their oath by subverting the 2nd A. Any ideas how we can get this started ? Any lawyers out there ?

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    If you are going to do it; add the other amendments (and the body of the Constitution) they are ignoring or trying to simply revoke through governmental orders. They are screwing with much more than the 2nd amendment. This is not a narrow attack on the constitution and the citizens. This is a targeted attack on those citizens which might be aggressively recalcitrant about the things that are going on.

    Is there not the issue of treason for sworn officials ignoring or actively refuting/perverting the Constitution? For example Pelosi (a high, sworn, government official) who had the "balls" to announce that we need to eliminate guns to honor the US Constitution (which she has apparently never actually read, but has heard firm rumors from psychotic people against personal self defense and citizen's rights). The same politicians who, on the other hand, feel free to attack other sovereign nations mostly because we don't like them, or the nation tried to kill one of our relatives, or we want their resources at below current market and eliminate artificial shortages.

    Just sayen.
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    To many of the politicians the constitution does not mean much to them. They ignore most of it and when they make laws they let the courts decide what is right or wrong. That takes a lot of time to work out.

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    The progressives hate the Constitution because it is, or at least was, a road block to their plans for a progressive, Marxist, Utopia. They care nothing about their oath. It is just one more lie that is necessary to fool the stupid voters into accepting the nightmare plans that they have for this country.

    Progressivism is a truly an evil and corrupting force that is gradually consuming everything that has led to the greatness of the U.S. In the Utopia they are building everyone is equally poor, except the ruling intellectual elite. Government will provide the necessities but will control every aspect of life. Any individual liberty, just like the Constitution, will of necessity become an anachronism.

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    We can start by not rewarding these people with re-election. But then when you try and unseat Santa Clause the low information voters object. Liberals know this and use it to stay in power.
    "You can get a lot accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit" - Ronald Reagan

  7. Notwithstanding the incessant oath-based yapping since 2008 among some on the right-of-center end of the political spectrum, "violations of oaths" based on dissatisfaction with results of discretionary decisions and policymaking whether real or perceived, are not prosecutable because Title 18 specifies no such crime. What a right-winger views as a blatant "violation" of an oath, moderates might characterize as "distasteful but we elected him to exercise his discretion," and left-wingers might say, "bravo for putting the good of the many above the desires of the few and we hope the next step is to further put the screws to the political right." That's what participative democracy is all about. And from the politicians'/appointees' perspective, compliance with the oath involves interpreting not-always-unambiguous constitutional and statutory language, notwithstanding lobbying efforts from all sorts of external players arguing emphatically that theirs is the one and only possible way to properly perform the duties of political office.

    Actual crimes involving Title 18 violations, e.g., bribery, are another matter entirely and legally outside the scope of "oath violations."

    Don't like politicians' performance? Use the political process.

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    The political process has been stacked against the voters by both parties and no longer works as intended. We have a major problem with a media that no longer reports the news but serves as an advocate for the progressives. It is impossible for even responsible voters to make good choices when they no longer have a source of accurate information.

    We might as well simply dispense with the oath of office since there is no longer any expectation of compliance. Virtually no one, except the low information voters, believes anything politicians say. And the idiot vote is bought with the promise of more government largesse. Politicians will not be held responsible for their behavior because the dependent class will vote to keep their benefactors in office. When politicians are not held responsible for their actions by voters does anyone expect them to behave in a moral and responsible manner?

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    I don't remember where I saw it, but it was said:

    "It is sad when those who wish to live by the Constitution of The United States of America are referred to as Radicals"

    How Far Have We Fallen.
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
    the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer1113 View Post
    I don't remember where I saw it, but it was said:

    "It is sad when those who wish to live by the Constitution of The United States of America are referred to as Radicals"

    How Far Have We Fallen.
    The progressives hate the Constitution because it stands in the way of their Utopian dreams. They think the founders were nothing but trouble makers who hated big government; and the Bill of Rights is just a charter of negative liberties. The Declaration of Independence is a subversive document and is evil because it mentions God given liberties which can't be taken away by government, which is the supreme power.

    Welcome to Utopia, the tyranny of big government and socialism.

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    The progressives are right that the founders hated big government. That's why the US Constitution was written in a way to limit the power of government. The first two amendments in the Bill of Rights are one and two for a reason. We loose those and America will no longer be a government of the people. America will be a people, subjects of the government.
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