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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob in Bristol View Post
    In all fairness Jackson did make a statement (weak, but something). No accountability. If I had done something like that when I was a kid, my dad would have beat me within an inch of my life, and everyone would have thought I got what I deserved. Today, at this time in history my dad would have been jailed, and I would have been the hero.

    I'm not saying the father in this case responded correctly because we don't what consequences he imposed, if in fact any were imposed. His statement sounds like he was making excuses instead of reminding his child how wrong his behavior was.

    But when an adult takes to beating a child because he can't figure out how to discipline the child without violence he is exhibiting a lack of parenting skills and lack of intellectual capacity.

    I raised 4 kids and never once had to hit any of them. I never ran out of ways to discipline them without violence. All four are now highly self-disciplined adults with post-graduate degrees, good jobs, and the one who is married is an excellent parent of my two grandchildren. She sees no need for violence to discipline her children, probably because she learned from my parenting how much more efficient and effective non-violent discipline is for children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    I'm not saying the father in this case responded correctly because we don't what consequences he imposed, if in fact any were imposed. His statement sounds like he was making excuses instead of reminding his child how wrong his behavior was.

    But when an adult takes to beating a child because he can't figure out how to discipline the child without violence he is exhibiting a lack of parenting skills and lack of intellectual capacity.

    I raised 4 kids and never once had to hit any of them. I never ran out of ways to discipline them without violence. All four are now highly self-disciplined adults with post-graduate degrees, good jobs, and the one who is married is an excellent parent of my two grandchildren. She sees no need for violence to discipline her children, probably because she learned from my parenting how much more efficient and effective non-violent discipline is for children.
    nogods, nice to hear from you again. I said, "If I had done something like that when I was a kid, my dad would have beat me within an inch of my life". I never did anything like that either, but I did receive a few spankings, not beatings. I have only raises two hard working responsible boys, that received a few spankings. Some times my boys punishment was taking away TV rights, sent to their room, or some other loss of privilege. My point was the punishment should match the offense. And in this case I do not believe the punishment matched the offense. It is commendable the job you did on raising fine children, without violence. You were obviously a parent doing the right thing from early on. Teaching your children right from wrong from the beginning. I never liked giving my boys a spanking, but thought it was necessary considering the circumstances. An example: We were over at my parent, and my youngest son was acting up. I asked him to stop, he did not. I asked him if he wanted a spanking, he said yes, and I obliged him. After that I never had to give him a spanking again.
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    My father and mother would have whipped me so that I would not have been able to sit down for a month. I nor none of my friends would have ever ganged up on anyone. Nor would we have ever jumped on anyone smaller or younger. It has been said that these kids most likely knew that they would not be held accountable for their actions.

    Could be the father did whip his son at home, but only because he was a fool to get filmed while beating up a kid!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whodat2710 View Post
    I honestly don't think this was racist. ...
    I disagree, this was BLACK on WHITE crime. Not trying to fan the flames but had it been the other way around, surly MaoBama and the boys would have intervened and prosecuted. Time to give up this namby pamby attitude and call it out for what it is..........REALLY getten tired of Caucasians getting the beat down and no one standing up. Where's the NAACP, C being Caucasian, in this.
    Glad to see today both pleaded guilty. Gotta own it to take it. It's a start.
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    When people refuse to govern their own actions according to certain minimal standards required by society and a moral code, then they should lose that right and be removed from society. When a large enough segment of society appears to lack the ability of self governance, then we will all eventually lose our liberty and right of self governance.

    This is why republics collapse and degenerate into a totalitarian forms of government. Look around you; this is exactly what's happening in almost every segment our society. God, and therefore a moral code on which this society has been based since our founding, has been removed from the public square by the progressives. Then we wonder why we see these horrible examples of barbarism. This was a planned destruction of the moral code upon which the the U.S. has been based since the beginning. This society didn't always live up to the standards set by our founders. However, it was always there as basis for a moral society. And there were many good people who tried and gradually made this society better. We are now progressing towards an amoral society, governed by a socialist tyranny, where the collective is predominant and the individual is irrelevant.

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    OK, IMHO there is a difference between "violence" and discipline. If your kid makes you mad and you beat them, that is violence. If your kid has been bad and a spanking is determined to be an appropriate punishment it is not "violence". Granted, spankings are for younger children. A toddler does not understand the "loss of privilege" punishment, and sometimes standing in the corner is not an equitable punishment. Kids shouldn't be spanked for everything, but they should have a healthy respect for it when considering a major moral infraction. The goal is to make them understand action and consequence, responsibility for their actions, and hopefully have them be the voice of reason in their group of friends.
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    I flatly refuse to be PC. I call them as I see them and if someone doesn't like it they can kiss my a$$. PC is merely trying to convince someone it's possible to pick-up a turd by the clean end.
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    I once referred to some perp as an animal and caught hell from a libtard. The guy was in the news because he raped a child. He's an animal by any standard.
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    PC is a lie on the lips of truth.

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