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    MossyHead: Whatever your thoughts are of the American people, one thing you have obviously missed is that, regardless of the circumstances, we do not give up on our country. The country has weathered many storms caused by corrupt politicians and ultra rich businessmen who can't seem to make enough money or gain enough control of the country. The system stinks but, on occasion, someone comes along who makes a few corrections here and there and sustains the country for a few years. A brief respite from the "old boy, business as usual system." We continue to plod along like that but, the point is, we do continue! We will pee and moan about our situation and do what little we, as individual citizens, can and try to make things better. The "happy days" you refer to will never return but that doesn't mean that our future is necessarily dismal and not to be looked forward to. Rather than make statements about what is wrong with our system, why don't you honestly try to do something about it? What gives you license to blatantly condemn the American people? Are you an American? What have you done to make the country better or, do you just troll around trying stir up people? Still, your original post beggars the questions, who are you and what have you done to either contribute to our problems or make the country a better place? Can you answer that or only respond in little zingers?

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    My patriotism died with my father... the last patriots are gone. I don't give two cents about this country anymore. It's not the country my forefathers fought for.
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    Patriotic "fluff", like bumper stickers can still serve a purpose if it is used as an icebreaker to find like-minded individuals.
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    In a few months I am retiring from 25yrs of military service. My next act of patriotism will be to attain a degree as a history teacher, and educate the next generation regarding where we cam from, how we got here, and what to be watchful for. I will not subjugate students to history that has been "changed" to suit the current administration. My goal is not to teach the kids about history, but to instill the desire to learn about history and other topics. If you can show a young mind the power of learning, you can make them think for themselves. A child that can question the logic of what they are being told is learning common sense. And if I get booted for it then I have my retired pay to fall back on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MossyHead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by foxytwo View Post
    I served 6 years in the military in the late 50s and early 60s and I am a patriot. If I was young again I would do it all over again in a heartbeat. There are millions of patriots in this great country, they are not saying look at me because I have served, or going to serve.
    Your reply doesn't address anything said in the post except to make my point, a shallow and thoughtless patriotism.
    So you think military service is "shallow and thoughtless patriotism"?
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    Right now, this country appears lost to the banksters, the Marxists, and International Globalism. The children of the Greatest Generation squandered most of what was gained by them and their predecessors allowing the godless to take away our schools, the multiculturalists to dilute our civilization, and revisionists to rewrite our history. International banking has stolen our money, foolish elite intellectualism has taken our thoughts, and rampant consumerism has destroyed our souls. We as a nation are adrift - we've have twice elected a neo-fascist Marxist to our highest office, a man who's sole guide is to bring this country down to the moral and financial level of central Africa. The body politic continues to re-elect 90% of incumbents and then expect change for the better. Many believe that good intentions will get us out of hell and positive moral actions will put us there... we are currently a confused and schizophrenic land. Many in this nation rejects the religion upon which this country was founded and embraces the one that seeks to kill us; we worship the cult of "expert opinion" and defenestrate common sense; our children run wild in the streets and kill for no reason. Patriotism is little more than fireworks, a small band marching in blue and white rags, and part of the tag-line for a brand of beer.

    But... there is a chance that there will arise a leader that will rekindle the spirit of the country most of us hold dear. This leader will have to be pure of spirit, without political guile, and one who can articulate to everyone what this nation was founded on and it's greatest ideals. He or she will have to teach, cajole, and inspire both the patriots and the misinformed to take back the republic that is of, for, and by the People not the politicians, bureaucrats, and the monied interests that now permeate government. We need a Washington, Lincoln, Churchill, Reagan... someone capable of restating to everyone why this country exists at all and why it flourished for 200 years. Until and if that person(s) appears, I hold hope for our nation but very little confidence of our not going over the socio/political precipice first.
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    I call Troll on the OP. He acts like a five year old with a fart cushion as he types his "it got to you" responses.

    Move along folks... Nothing to see here...


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    Quote Originally Posted by MossyHead View Post
    lol, read more than the title before you reply and you'll get the answer to your question.
    I did. What I got out of it was it seemed like someone was questioning his own patriotism while discounting everyone else's. With the psychological training I've had, this is a classic case of deflection. This is why I asked if you were questioning your own patriotism.

    What exactly is your point for posting what you did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    My patriotism died with my father... the last patriots are gone. I don't give two cents about this country anymore. It's not the country my forefathers fought for.
    BC1: I am just on the under side of 80 and, as long as I am still here, there will be one patriot left. I know there are more on here and, in actuality, I know you are also a patriot but you are just fed up like the rest of us. I am just determined to stick around and be a thorn in the side of all the elitists/leftist/socialists/communists/Muslims and all the other people trying to ruin our country. I am only one rather insignificant person in the scheme of things but, with all the others like me, we can become a formidable force and, even though we might lose in the end, we will have put up one hell of a fight. Remember King Leonidas, "Molon Labe."

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    I hate to quote a democrat but; "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country."
    First State of the Union Address (30 January 1961)
    I still live that creed today.
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    This was when there were true Leaders in the White House. Not some infiltration by communists leaning socialist. Hellooooooo NSA..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    BC1: I am just on the under side of 80 and, as long as I am still here, there will be one patriot left. I know there are more on here and, in actuality, I know you are also a patriot but you are just fed up like the rest of us. I am just determined to stick around and be a thorn in the side of all the elitists/leftist/socialists/communists/Muslims and all the other people trying to ruin our country. I am only one rather insignificant person in the scheme of things but, with all the others like me, we can become a formidable force and, even though we might lose in the end, we will have put up one hell of a fight. Remember King Leonidas, "Molon Labe."
    It gets tiring doesn't it? Dad always said freedom isn't free. I miss my father. I miss that entire age group. The WWII and Korea vets are some of the most interesting people I've known. Real wisdom came from your generation. Even in my fifties I often wish I had my father to ask advice.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

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