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    America needs a revolution

    This is usually something, many of us refuse to talk about on an open forum, but maybe Big Brother needs to see some sort of active discussion regarding a Revolution, and in no way am I encouraging active talks about attacks against our Government, or asking for members to join a revolutionary group.

    A pacifist revolution will just swing the pendulum back some, and will not have any real effect. Am I saying we need a full out civil war? I would like to think it would do some good. "The Tree must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots" would you say the tree needs to be refreshed? From the looks of it, many of us, at least on here, seem to think so.
    Common Good is no longer a thought in our House or Senate. It doesnt seem to be of any importance with our President. Washington is dead. Theyve passed bills for personal gain, went against the American people, time and time again, what have the American people done thus far? Nothing, weve used their puppet website to post petitions, received generic responses and nothing has been done. Weve written our senators and congressmen, and nothing has happened, Washington seems to do as it wants, theyre "untouchable" in their house of power.

    What we need is to shake up our Federal Government, let them see the American People ARE NOT HAPPY, we need to change the rules, let them realize WE control this country, NOT them. Thus far, the Government has shown it is not for the American People anymore, our Forefathers warned us of days like this, and empowered the People to take control through the 2nd Amendment. Unconstitutional acts such as executing American people without trial, wire taping without probable cause or warrants, setting up FEMA camps and passing unconstitutional laws. What have we done? Nothing. Weve written our Representatives time and time again with no realistic answer. They vote on what THEY want, not what WE want, presidential elections anymore are a joke, whats the point when Votes are compromised with cheats, [most recent election is proof] Presidents are elected anymore by corporations with deep pockets, Bills seem to be passed the same way. The rich are staying rich and the poor keep getting poorer, spending is out of control, yet noone seems to really care, "raise the debt ceiling." DC is corrupt....
    I personally feel we shake the tree, and get this country going on the right direction. We USE to be the greatest nation on earth. We use to have the most powerful economy, now, what do we have, what major export do we have, what good jobs are left that dont start out at 10.00 an hour? Our country is being run on minimum wage, inflation is nearly out of control. Now, Obamacare, an insult on the American people, another burden the lower classes can not afford. The US Government is no longer the voice OF the people, but it's now the voice TO the people. How are we just letting this happen? How much longer are we going to take this?

    The Federal Government was NEVER intended to be bigger than the states, however, weve seen the table turn, the Federal Government has outgrown the pants it was intended to wear. Its outgrown it purpose and has written a new one for itself, Socialism or Communism seems to be the direction it wants to go. Law after law is passed with little to no thought, if one bill doesnt seem to have the votes, they hide it in another bill [Affordable Heathcare Act]

    We need to wake up. A Revolution needs to happen.........

    Just my honest opinion...
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    I generally agree with what you say. There are a couple of problems, though. One. In the minds of most of the federal government, we work for them. They are in charge. Of course, Obama is the worst, but most in congress, even those engaged in anti-Obamacare theater right now, don't really think we're the boss.
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    Two. We are within a hair of that point where those who are net beneficiaries outnumber the net taxpayers. That is, according to historians, the point at which every democracy in the history of the world has failed, and has always been followed by a dictatorship. In fact, there is no other way. If you try scaling back welfare, you get the kind of riots we've seen in Greece, Spain, and other places. We have multi-generations of welfare families who truly believe they are owed everything. The European riots will pale next to the US Welfare riots. Only a powerful and brutal dictatorship will be able to bring control back once the riots start. That's why I plan to have my subsistence farm in place ahead of time, well away from the cities. And lots of ammo. In that future, 3-Gun won't be a sport. It will be a way of life for those who survive.

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    I generally agree with what you say. There are a couple of problems, though. One. In the minds of most of the federal government, we work for them. They are in charge. Of course, Obama is the worst, but most in congress, even those engaged in anti-Obamacare theater right now, don't really think we're the boss.
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    Two. We are within a hair of that point where those who are net beneficiaries outnumber the net taxpayers. That is, according to historians, the point at which every democracy in the history of the world has failed, and has always been followed by a dictatorship. In fact, there is no other way. If you try scaling back welfare, you get the kind of riots we've seen in Greece, Spain, and other places. We have multi-generations of welfare families who truly believe they are owed everything. The European riots will pale next to the US Welfare riots. Only a powerful and brutal dictatorship will be able to bring control back once the riots start. That's why I plan to have my subsistence farm in place ahead of time, well away from the cities. And lots of ammo. In that future, 3-Gun won't be a sport. It will be a way of life for those who survive.
    Riots ? Let the games begin !
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowserb View Post
    I generally agree with what you say. There are a couple of problems, though. One. In the minds of most of the federal government, we work for them. They are in charge. Of course, Obama is the worst, but most in congress, even those engaged in anti-Obamacare theater right now, don't really think we're the boss.
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    Two. We are within a hair of that point where those who are net beneficiaries outnumber the net taxpayers. That is, according to historians, the point at which every democracy in the history of the world has failed, and has always been followed by a dictatorship. In fact, there is no other way. If you try scaling back welfare, you get the kind of riots we've seen in Greece, Spain, and other places. We have multi-generations of welfare families who truly believe they are owed everything. The European riots will pale next to the US Welfare riots. Only a powerful and brutal dictatorship will be able to bring control back once the riots start. That's why I plan to have my subsistence farm in place ahead of time, well away from the cities. And lots of ammo. In that future, 3-Gun won't be a sport. It will be a way of life for those who survive.
    I agree with what youve said. Sadly, I think the Government in some ways created a monster, and unfortunately, most of which is the American Government & some people. Those who believe theyre OWED everything obviously own nothing, they dont live life, they let life live for them. Theyre zombies in many ways with nothing to accomplish, and no real productive purpose. Dictatorship will follow the US Constitution unless we do something about it now, its proven itself in the past, look at Nazi Germany, and Communist Russia. Unless we wake up now and reclaim what is rightfully ours [Our Country] we will lose it forever and sadly, our Kids, Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren will pay for it.
    Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier....One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itstjs View Post
    This is usually something, many of us refuse to talk about on an open forum, but maybe Big Brother needs to see some sort of active discussion regarding a Revolution, and in no way am I encouraging active talks about attacks against our Government, or asking for members to join a revolutionary group.

    A pacifist revolution will just swing the pendulum back some, and will not have any real effect. Am I saying we need a full out civil war? I would like to think it would do some good. "The Tree must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots" would you say the tree needs to be refreshed? From the looks of it, many of us, at least on here, seem to think so.
    Common Good is no longer a thought in our House or Senate. It doesnt seem to be of any importance with our President. Washington is dead. Theyve passed bills for personal gain, went against the American people, time and time again, what have the American people done thus far? Nothing, weve used their puppet website to post petitions, received generic responses and nothing has been done. Weve written our senators and congressmen, and nothing has happened, Washington seems to do as it wants, theyre "untouchable" in their house of power.

    What we need is to shake up our Federal Government, let them see the American People ARE NOT HAPPY, we need to change the rules, let them realize WE control this country, NOT them. Thus far, the Government has shown it is not for the American People anymore, our Forefathers warned us of days like this, and empowered the People to take control through the 2nd Amendment. Unconstitutional acts such as executing American people without trial, wire taping without probable cause or warrants, setting up FEMA camps and passing unconstitutional laws. What have we done? Nothing. Weve written our Representatives time and time again with no realistic answer. They vote on what THEY want, not what WE want, presidential elections anymore are a joke, whats the point when Votes are compromised with cheats, [most recent election is proof] Presidents are elected anymore by corporations with deep pockets, Bills seem to be passed the same way. The rich are staying rich and the poor keep getting poorer, spending is out of control, yet noone seems to really care, "raise the debt ceiling." DC is corrupt....
    I personally feel we shake the tree, and get this country going on the right direction. We USE to be the greatest nation on earth. We use to have the most powerful economy, now, what do we have, what major export do we have, what good jobs are left that dont start out at 10.00 an hour? Our country is being run on minimum wage, inflation is nearly out of control. Now, Obamacare, an insult on the American people, another burden the lower classes can not afford. The US Government is no longer the voice OF the people, but it's now the voice TO the people. How are we just letting this happen? How much longer are we going to take this?

    The Federal Government was NEVER intended to be bigger than the states, however, weve seen the table turn, the Federal Government has outgrown the pants it was intended to wear. Its outgrown it purpose and has written a new one for itself, Socialism or Communism seems to be the direction it wants to go. Law after law is passed with little to no thought, if one bill doesnt seem to have the votes, they hide it in another bill [Affordable Heathcare Act]

    We need to wake up. A Revolution needs to happen.........

    Just my honest opinion...
    Did you post this on Facebook or Twitter? You need to... Big Brother already has you on its list, just like me. I said the hell with it... if they come in the middle of the night, they come. FIGHT BACK, the odds don't matter anymore... if you have half a brain, you can see where this country is going to be in another 20, 30 or 40 years... just another Republic that give its citizens free sh!t, so the people got lazy, stupid and careless... and then a Monarchy took its palce where the citizens are nothing more than slaves with permission to go shopping.
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    A starting place for reform--if it were even possible--could be something like this: Everything that we give to "the poor" also becomes a before-adjusted-gross-income deduction on your tax return. That way, everyone gets the same freebies. You get to deduct food--the same amount that you would get in food stamps. You deduct your cell phone, Internet, cable TV, and ALL medical expenses (NOT just to the extent they exceed 7% of AGI). Again, this is before AGI, not an itemized deduction as those would remain as is except for medical, which moved above the AGI line. Taxes paid by the middle class would drop dramatically and something would have to be done. At that point, you cut everyone at the same time. OK--cell phones are no longer free/deductible. Cable TV is no longer free/deductible. And so on.
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    Right now the never-worked poor live better than people working for minimum wage in the majority of states. AND...in eleven states, the perpetual welfare dwellers live better than first year school teachers. Imagine that. You pay and study for four years; practice teaching; and finally get a teaching job in a poor district. Your welfare students live better than you do. They have free cell phones, Internet and cable TV, which you can't afford on your salary. They have free first dollar health care, while you had to buy Obamacare with a big deductible. They even have free alcoholic beverages (for the uninformed, to get alcohol, you buy Tide with food stamps and sell it in the parking lot for .50 on the dollar for cash for alcohol and drugs).
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    You cut everyone at the same time. That way it won't be "those Republicans who hate the poor" but rather "those Republicans who hate the poor and middle class".
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    Of course, in truth none of it will work. Our downward spiral will only stop when we hit bottom. If I were young enough to have kids, I would not. I feel sick every day about what my children and grandchildren have to look forward to, and all I can do is write my congressman and senators. And there my useless correspondence is scanned and trashed by an overpaid staffer who is exempt from Obamacare.

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    Just think, if we never allowed the FED and IRS to be created... we wouldn't be in nearly as bad of shape. Ohhh, how our ignorance and stupidity are coming back to bite us in the @ss. Sorry kids, but your Great Grand & Grand-parents failed you... Mom and Pop are trying to fix it but, it's a toughy.
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    This seems appropriate...

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    well, good luck with that farm. :-) Cause LOTS of people from the area WILL know about you, and WILL be numbered among the looters, and WILL kill you to get your stuff. All that a farm does is give you a head start on the "townies", and you won't have to go far to get into your concealed dugout shelter, or to access your (very large) circle of buried metal drums of food /gear. Me, I am just going to stay underground in daylight, and most of the night, as well, for about a year, if shtf. You guys can have all that fighting, fire and disease, and having to shoot all the starving, hurt, diseased women and kids who WILL show up at your door.

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    I found thru:

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    It's a joke, get it?
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