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    Is Baohner's Boondoggle unconstitutional?

    So what happens if congress demands that the Supreme Court reverse Heller and McDonald or suffer the consequences of being defunded.

    I'd expect the clerk would commence an action against congress and the decision would be that such a move is unconstitutional because it uses a legitimate procedure for an illegitimate purpose.

    Boehner's boondoggle is no different.

    Withholding funding of the government to get repeal of a law validly enacted and politically affirmed by a majority of voters in the last presidential election is no different.

    Maybe Benedict Boehner and his followers should be tried for treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    So what happens if congress demands that the Supreme Court reverse Heller and McDonald or suffer the consequences of being defunded.

    I'd expect the clerk would commence an action against congress and the decision would be that such a move is unconstitutional because it uses a legitimate procedure for an illegitimate purpose.

    Boehner's boondoggle is no different.

    Withholding funding of the government to get repeal of a law validly enacted and politically affirmed by a majority of voters in the last presidential election is no different.

    Maybe Benedict Boehner and his followers should be tried for treason.
    Except for one glaring fact. The AHA is a tax as defined by the SCOTUS. As a tax, it means it is a budget bill. It started in the Senate and not the House. Therefore it still is an illegal Act. Maybe Benedict Reid and Pelosi should be tried for treason. The House has the power of the budget bills so if they defund, the Senate can only chose to seek a compromise. And by the way, it is 0bama who first violated the illegal Act by cutting out chunks for his pals who get an extra year to implement it.
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    Boehner's actions are far from being a boondoggle. If Obamacare is the law and is to be followed by one and all, why has Obama made so many unauthorized modifications to it himself? He can't have it both ways. All or nothing applies to him as well as the rest of us. The House has offered to make concessions that would keep the government going and give time to iron out the kinks in Obamacare. The Dems found out that OKing one bill at a time would defeat their stonewalling and, consequently, stopped everything. Obama's refusal to negotiate is more from being egotistical than a wise political ploy. If the government defaults, that decision lies at Obama's feet. He will own it but, as usual, he may try to blame that on George Bush also. I have said it before and will say it again, the inmates are running the asylum!! In all seriousness, to default may not be as bad as people think. It may cause an uproar in the country so that even Obama will have to get off the pot.

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    I wonder if Obama realizes theres a fire on the first floor, and theyre stuck on the second. Defund Obamacare, no one wants it, about 51% of Americans do not favor the AHA, 39% approve a 10% are neutral according to PolitiFact | Obamacare "has never been favored by a majority of Americans," Gingrich says I wonder if Obama sees these approval ratings? He should give up, the vote on AHA was unconstitutional in the fact that AHA was Passed by house and senate as a LAW before it was switched to a tax without a vote.

    As I always say, I will NOT get the AHA nor will I participate in his Healthcare reform. Hes got to realize, the more he pushes, the more and more Americans will say NO. Then again, the Congressmen and Senators need to listen to their people too. I can only hope the Shutdown will force Obamas hand and he will [hopefully] use all 2200 pages as uncomfortable toilet paper.
    Baohners stunt a Boondoggle? I think not. Sorry, but I have to ask, whos side are YOU on? You came to the wrong place calling Baohners stunt Unconstitutional, inadvertently calling AHA Constitutional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    So what happens if congress demands that the Supreme Court reverse Heller and McDonald or suffer the consequences of being defunded.

    I'd expect the clerk would commence an action against congress and the decision would be that such a move is unconstitutional because it uses a legitimate procedure for an illegitimate purpose.

    Boehner's boondoggle is no different.

    Withholding funding of the government to get repeal of a law validly enacted and politically affirmed by a majority of voters in the last presidential election is no different.

    Maybe Benedict Boehner and his followers should be tried for treason.
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    First, Obama's acts with respect to the law may or may not be unconstitutional. The answer to that won't change whether or not Boehner's ransom note is unconstitutional. Constitutional law doesn't work on the "unclean hands" doctrine.

    Second, Blaming Obama for the consequences of Boehner's ransom note is like blaming the store owner for the brick thrown through his window when he refused to pay the protection insurance.

    And the polls show that the public understands that quite well. Boehner is handing the Democrats the 17 house seats they need in 2014.

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    Nogods, your statement on the voters was wrong also. A majority of the voters did not vote for 0bama. They voted for Mitt or did not vote at all. It was only the majority of those who did vote that voted for 0bama and that vote is still unsettled as there were many ballots that could and were challenged. Explain a voting area having more votes than voters registered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Boehner is handing the Democrats the 17 house seats they need in 2014.
    I have to laugh when you liberals make these statements. I have to ask, why do you care? Are you saying you want republicans to win? Really! You should be cheering the republicans on to keep getting the blame. That way you can get more liberals elected.
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    Everyone knows that liberals have the best interests of the conservatives at heart. This is the reason that we seem to allow the media to pick our candidates for us. And they have given conservatives some great candidates recently.

    The "power of the purse" was given to the House intentionally to prevent laws dangerous to the Republic from taking effect. The founders realized that the House was more accountable to the people than the Senate. House members must run for reelection every two years and are vulnerable if they pass things that seriously hurt the people.

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