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    Why Registration?

    Remember the NY Gun owner who was data mined and they took away his license because he had received a prescription for anxiety years ago?
    Remember Cuomo saying "keep your guns just register them"
    Banned used to mean convicted felons. Soon it will mean if taking certain kinds of medication or who knows what in the future.
    We now have a "GUN Squad" run by the State Police. They will soon be doing what California is doing.


    California using a program like APPS, which cross references five databases to find people who legally purchased handguns and registered assault weapons since 1996 with people banned from owning or possessing firearms.

    California Department of Justice agents sweep Fresno, Clovis for illegal guns | Crime | FresnoBee.com

    If agents are denied the search but have reason to believe they are being lied to, they will seek a warrant and lock down the house until they get results.

    Feeling safer yet......in the land of the free.
    Tolerance of the intolerant leads to the destruction of tolerance. “You are also reminded that any inappropriate remarks or jokes concerning security may result in your arrest,” in the land of the free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golocx4 View Post
    Remember the NY Gun owner who was data mined and they took away his license because he had received a prescription for anxiety years ago?
    Remember Cuomo saying "keep your guns just register them"
    Banned used to mean convicted felons. Soon it will mean if taking certain kinds of medication or who knows what in the future.
    We now have a "GUN Squad" run by the State Police. They will soon be doing what California is doing.


    California using a program like APPS, which cross references five databases to find people who legally purchased handguns and registered assault weapons since 1996 with people banned from owning or possessing firearms.

    California Department of Justice agents sweep Fresno, Clovis for illegal guns | Crime | FresnoBee.com

    If agents are denied the search but have reason to believe they are being lied to, they will seek a warrant and lock down the house until they get results.

    Feeling safer yet......in the land of the free.
    It doesn't even need to be for Anxiety. Someone I know had a ruptured disk and nerve pain. One of the "side effects" of many Anti-Depressants is that it relieves nerve pain, so the Doc prescribed anti-depressant drugs for nerve pain... not related to ANY mental or behavioral issues.

    This (now not so secret) Gun Squad formed by Emperor Coumo is scrubbing drug and gun databases (without warrants) in order to deny your 2nd Amendment rights. At the same time, they are violating 4th Amendment rights. Medical records are SUPPOSED to be PRIVATE! (and now they are REQUIRED to be in electronic form under Obamacare...Hmmm)

    The scary part is... the mere prescription of anti-depressants for other reasons may also trigger an investigation into your qualification for legal gun ownership.

    Cuomo and his secret squads need to go! Registration?... We don't need no stinkin' registration!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by golocx4 View Post
    Remember the NY Gun owner who was data mined and they took away his license because he had received a prescription for anxiety years ago?
    Remember Cuomo saying "keep your guns just register them"
    Banned used to mean convicted felons. Soon it will mean if taking certain kinds of medication or who knows what in the future.
    We now have a "GUN Squad" run by the State Police. They will soon be doing what California is doing.


    California using a program like APPS, which cross references five databases to find people who legally purchased handguns and registered assault weapons since 1996 with people banned from owning or possessing firearms.

    California Department of Justice agents sweep Fresno, Clovis for illegal guns | Crime | FresnoBee.com

    If agents are denied the search but have reason to believe they are being lied to, they will seek a warrant and lock down the house until they get results.

    Feeling safer yet......in the land of the free.
    Above is a classic example of gov't being motivated (e.g. harrassing gun owners) - they can use 5 different data base references to find guns, their owners, their meds (coming as a 6th data base), and (justifiably) criminal records to accomplish the goal of total gun registration or a cross reference for medications and firearm ownership, but... they can't find most of the illegal aliens in their states.
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    You ain't seen nothing yet concerning data mining of enemies of the State. Marx, Mao and Lenin, to name a few, could only have dreamed of such richness to control the people.
    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mappow View Post
    You ain't seen nothing yet concerning data mining of enemies of the State. Marx, Mao and Lenin, to name a few, could only have dreamed of such richness to control the people.
    Yes, data mining. I try to explain this to people. We leave digital footprints every day. Facebook, email, telephone, etc. We also apply for a gun permit, file certain taxes are members of clubs and organizations. We read certain magazines and visit particular websites.
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    Sooooo, now the government can get a list of al people above or below a certain income, based on race, who are religious, who have served in the military, who have a gun permit, who like the GOP, who visit firearm-related chat boards, who have called a government office in the past, etc, etc, etc.
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    In the wrong hands... very dangerous indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Yes, data mining. I try to explain this to people. We leave digital footprints every day. Facebook, email, telephone, etc. We also apply for a gun permit, file certain taxes are members of clubs and organizations. We read certain magazines and visit particular websites.
    .
    Sooooo, now the government can get a list of al people above or below a certain income, based on race, who are religious, who have served in the military, who have a gun permit, who like the GOP, who visit firearm-related chat boards, who have called a government office in the past, etc, etc, etc.
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    In the wrong hands... very dangerous indeed.
    The government is most definitely "the wrong hands".


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    Quote Originally Posted by golocx4 View Post
    Remember the NY Gun owner who was data mined and they took away his license because he had received a prescription for anxiety years ago?
    Remember Cuomo saying "keep your guns just register them"
    Banned used to mean convicted felons. Soon it will mean if taking certain kinds of medication or who knows what in the future.
    We now have a "GUN Squad" run by the State Police. They will soon be doing what California is doing.


    California using a program like APPS, which cross references five databases to find people who legally purchased handguns and registered assault weapons since 1996 with people banned from owning or possessing firearms.

    California Department of Justice agents sweep Fresno, Clovis for illegal guns | Crime | FresnoBee.com

    If agents are denied the search but have reason to believe they are being lied to, they will seek a warrant and lock down the house until they get results.

    Feeling safer yet......in the land of the free.
    Is this a state in the U.S.A. or a third world country run by a dictator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior1256 View Post
    Is this a state in the U.S.A. or a third world country run by a dictator?
    Can you find any difference?
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    The founders believed that rights come from God and progressives believe they come from government. Registration and any type of gun control isn't about preventing crime it is about control. And progressives want government to have control over every aspect of your life. This includes your self defense, health care, your survival, wages, your diet, your children, travel, driving habits and your land. And that control is wanted every bit much by big government Republicans as Democrats. There is no individual liberty in the Marxist collective that these progressives are creating. They are working to enslave us. And over half the people keep saying "more please".

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    Can you find any difference?
    Crime rate is lower. Are many third world countries communist?

    Ummm... yeah, that's about it.
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    "Government is not meant to burden Liberty but rather to secure it." -T.J. O'Hara

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