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    Quote Originally Posted by jwtollett21 View Post
    This came directly from cnn.

    "I don't care about how Sarah Palin or John McCain take care of their families. I care about how their policy choices affect my family and millions of other Americans.
    McCain and Palin get their health insurance paid for by the government (hers in Alaska and his in Washington). Yet they oppose giving the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans the same access to affordable health care.
    John McCain's kids don't have to worry about paying for college. Yet he has opposed every single education support program to help others.
    McCain and Palin say they will stand up to oil companies. Yet the only energy policy they support gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil companies to do more drilling and he has opposed every piece of federal legislation to explore alternative fuel sources.
    McCain and Palin say they will revamp how Washington does business. Yet his campaign is filled with lobbyists and she has cooperated with Sen. Ted Stevens in funneling federal money for useless projects in Alaska for years. And McCain and Palin have no solutions for Americans worrying about their jobs in a fragile economy. iReport.com: Is Palin the right choice for you?
    McCain and Palin want us to leave their families alone. Yet they want to make rules for our families by eliminating our right to make our own choices over abortion, eliminate our access to family planning education or domestic partner benefits, and our freedom from discrimination.
    They want to control what our kids learn in school about sex and about science. In short, through the policies they promote and the judges they support, they want the government to have more control over our private lives than at any time in history.
    McCain and Palin now say their campaign is about change, too. Yet the only real change they have proposed is a change from a suit to a skirt in the vice president's office and one man fighting a misplaced war for another in the Oval Office.
    That seems to me to be the right reason to oppose them in November. It's not the process or the people, it's what they represent. This unconventional choice of a vice presidential nominee by John McCain won't result in a win in November, because McCain and Palin are the wrong choice for the country"

    Let me add this Obama will not raise your taxes if you make 250k or less. You will actually receive a larger tax cut than under mcbush.
    AMEN Brother! I don't make 250,000 I never will. I have been reading about certain CEO's who lead their companies to utter ruin who were then given MILLIONS as a severance package nice work boys. Now the American tax payers will get stuck with the bills.
    ["Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
    - Ben Franklin
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    As far as taxes go take a look at the following and decide whether Obama will raise them:

    The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2008

    Taxes under CLINTON-1999 Taxes under BUSH-2008

    Single earning: Single earning:

    30K - taxed- $ 8,400 30K - taxed $4,500

    50K - taxed $ 14,000 50K - taxed $12,500

    75K - taxed $ 23,250 75K - taxed $18,750


    Married earning: Married earning:

    60K - taxed $ 16,800 60K - taxed $9,000

    75K - taxed $ 21,000 75K - taxed $18,750

    125K - taxed $ 38,750 125K- taxed $31,250
    Last edited by ronwill; 10-05-2008 at 09:51 AM.

  4. Well JW some of us here are a bit over 18 seen wars come and go been part of them and even did not agree with some. What we most know is if it looks like duck it might be one. If my son told me he was an obama person I would cut him out of my will. He knows better.His sisters don't know better.They have been given their freedom by others. My son and I have earned it, and will die to keep it. The price of freedom is our fathers blood. You with a vote for obama are spitting spitting on that blood. When you die from your arrogantance you die alone. So you think he will unite this country?
    Last edited by kwo51; 10-08-2008 at 07:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwo51 View Post
    Well JW some of us here are a bit over 18 seen wars come and go been part of them and even did not agree with some. What we most know is if it looks like duck it might be one. If my son told me he was an obama person I would cut him out of my will. He knows better.His sisters don't know better.They have been given their freedom by others. My son and I have earned it, and will die to keep it. The price of freedom is our fathers blood. You with a vote for obama are spitting spitting on that blood. When you die from your arrogant you die alone. So you think he will unite this country?
    That is the most idiotic statement i have heard on this site i think. i have heard alot but that may top them all. Why is it if obama wins then we lose our freedom. Explain that for me. Why do people say if we bring our troops home we are surrendering. Why? That is crazy. I care about all those guys dying for us and i just think its been past time to get them home. The spitting on the blood stuff is some strong words brother and i quite frankly think you should take them back. I am very very thankful for our freedom and the ones who died for us so we can have freedom and a right to vote. Its time to get our troops out of iraq and quit spending 10 billion a month over there. If we want to fight terror lets go to Afganistan and get Bin Laden. Why do all you guys think he is going to do something so different. I also feel for your son. He should vote for who he feels is the best president. I'm sorry if I offend you brother but come on you are going way overboard. Your acting like we are electing a dictator or hitler or somebody.

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    Your acting like we are electing a dictator or hitler or somebody.
    Close enough.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwtollett21 View Post
    That is the most idiotic statement i have heard on this site i think. i have heard alot but that may top them all. Why is it if obama wins then we lose our freedom. Explain that for me. Why do people say if we bring our troops home we are surrendering. Why? That is crazy. I care about all those guys dying for us and i just think its been past time to get them home. The spitting on the blood stuff is some strong words brother and i quite frankly think you should take them back. I am very very thankful for our freedom and the ones who died for us so we can have freedom and a right to vote. Its time to get our troops out of iraq and quit spending 10 billion a month over there. If we want to fight terror lets go to Afganistan and get Bin Laden. Why do all you guys think he is going to do something so different. I also feel for your son. He should vote for who he feels is the best president. I'm sorry if I offend you brother but come on you are going way overboard. Your acting like we are electing a dictator or hitler or somebody.
    JW, all I ask is that you research those you have decided to vote for. Obama may not be that bad but PLEASE research both sides, including Biden. I think you will find the Democratic ticket isn't the savior it's made out to be.

  9. Yes I think that we are going to have a socialist government if obama gets in and the next step is what we have been fighting against. Take it back hell no if this country is worth dying for someone has to stand in the gap.The blood of our for fathers ran in the streams of my family's South Carolina farms and it may again.

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    ronwill i have followed this election very closely and it comes down to this for me in November. Can this country stand 4 more years of George Bush. I mean 90 percent of the time mccain voted with the bush administration. Thats enough for me.

    I Still disagree kwo. No one is giving up freedom here. I admire your bravery and patriotism and love for this country, i share that with you and it makes me mad at the people that don't appreciate what our soldiers and fore fathers did for us. but i just don't see where you are drawing these conclusions. We will be as free as ever its just a bunch of fear and smear the republicans run on every election. There is no substance to what they are saying all they got is to try and run someones name in the ground instead of talk about issues. Why does John Mccain want to turn the topic off the economy when that is the number one issue and concern in america. Scared is why. Everybody is against socialism until they need bailed out or need the government.

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    Everybody is against socialism until they need bailed out or need the government.
    Actually socialism is what got us where we are and we do not need more of the same or worse. That is what we will get from Nobama.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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