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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomChick View Post
    As far as the bet. . I think it's a little off target. You could never afford to repay me for the loss of a GOD-given right.
    Just getting to read this thread. Thanks for this statement BoomChick--my guns are just an object that represent an underlying ideal. I will not stand for losing my God given right to protect myself to the government--there is no price you can put on loss of liberty.

    God created people with certain inalienable rights, some of these being life (including self protection), liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. People, in turn, created government to secure and safeguard those rights they already had before government was even established.

    Government is out of line trying to go up the chain and decide for the people which of their God given rights they can and cannot have and how they can exercise those rights.

    I don't know if Obama is actually going to take away my guns and/or my rights, but I know he'd like to if he could get the votes in congress to do it--he's said so himself. He'll have a fight if he tries and I think especially with the recent Supreme Court ruling it might take him a lot of work to get his full anti gun agenda passed, but I have no doubt he'll try. Rights can be eroded, infringed, micro-managed by the government, restricted, etc. to such a degree that they might as well have been taken away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mom of 3 angels View Post
    Just getting to read this thread. Thanks for this statement BoomChick--my guns are just an object that represent an underlying ideal. I will not stand for losing my God given right to protect myself to the government--there is no price you can put on loss of liberty.

    God created people with certain inalienable rights, some of these being life (including self protection), liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. People, in turn, created government to secure and safeguard those rights they already had before government was even established.

    Government is out of line trying to go up the chain and decide for the people which of their God given rights they can and cannot have and how they can exercise those rights.

    I don't know if Obama is actually going to take away my guns and/or my rights, but I know he'd like to if he could get the votes in congress to do it--he's said so himself. He'll have a fight if he tries and I think especially with the recent Supreme Court ruling it might take him a lot of work to get his full anti gun agenda passed, but I have no doubt he'll try. Rights can be eroded, infringed, micro-managed by the government, restricted, etc. to such a degree that they might as well have been taken away.
    Very well said!

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    well said is right. 100%agree with the exception of i think we will always have our guns no matter who is president

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    Oh Lord, protect us from Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ronwill View Post
    JW,... You have said in previous posts that you "have followed the election quite closely". My question is how? ...
    About the only way a person can "have followed the election quite closely" and come up with answers/views like JW has is to only get perceptions from watching what they have been saying on TV or other focused advertisements.

    It a person were to go on the Internet and do a small amount of research on either candidate, a persons views would have to change about what they find out from that research. A LOT more so with Obama than with McCain.

    Obama is tied in with so many shady dealings, like his relationship with ACORN, which continued from 1993 until 2003, and his recent donation of $800,000.00 worth of his campaign money. The FBI is going into those states now, where ACORN has been registering people to vote and have found that as high as 83% of those registrations have been fake and fraudulent. They (the Obama people) never told you that on TV? Here:
    ACORN Watch, Pt II: Obama hid $800,000 payment to ACORN through Citizen Services, Inc.


    Obama is really good with the smoke and mirrors, he really presents himself well on TV, just like any good car salesman does.

    BUT when you go behind the scenes he is using just about every way it is possible to tell an un-truth about what he stands for.

    We have no way of knowing if money passed hands with this "NRA life member" between Obama's people and their (possibly) bought "NRA life member".

    It is right in line with the rest of their tactics to talk about one thing regarding Obama and then (like in the video) start talking about jobs leaving the country because of McCain, whereas he (Greg West) should have been telling us how McCain stands behind the 2A and hunting.

    I'm an NRA Life member and I KNOW where they both stand on hunting and self defense. How? Because I haven't just watched TV and their ads. I have researched both of them. Obama is anti gun and ready to force the largest tax increase ever onto us poor tax payers.


    Quote Originally Posted by IheartTedNugent View Post
    ...As for Obama taking away our guns......
    He says he wont. ...
    Click here and read what Obama HAS said in regard to taking guns away. Read it all, so you get an understanding of how underhanded he is.

    Will Obama do more to help the economy than Bush has done and Mccain will do, probablly. ...
    YES! And how will he do that? By raising taxes, of course. Where do you think money comes from? From the tax payers.


    Research, read how they have voted/acted in the past. Forget the TV ads... those are all smoke and mirrors for the people who have to have someone else make up their mind for them.

    Be part of the 16% of the population that should be able to make up its (your) own mind.

    Forget what they are telling you these last couple of months, LOOK at what they have DONE. Look at their record. Their vote record, their speeches.




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    i have brother and what i haven't i think people here have posted. Your right Obama will raise the top 4 or 5 percent of earners taxes. I quite frankly don't care. I make 25k so i will get a tax decrease. Obama is not pro gun but i take him at his words and feel confident in my state that no guns will be taken from me. I feel so strongly about that that i have got a bet going on another post begging people to take me up on it, yet no one will take me up on it. All they can do is throw up rude remarks. This election is simple for me. Mccain=Bush. He said himself he voted 90% with bush. if thats not enough to change your mind i don't know what is. I think its way over time to get our troops home thats my second reason for voting for Obama. I feel he is much smarter than mccain and know that he will do more for the laborers or blue coller people like me than any republican will. I could care less about the socialism rhetoric or spreading the wealth around. Mccain is spreading it too with his 700 billion bailout vote and considering the second stimulus. This is the epitamy of socialist. how can he go around pointing fingers at Obama when he's doing the same stuff. Hypocrit to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwtollett21 View Post
    all thats good guys but taking our guns away ain't on his to do list. He's got to clean up after the last president all you guys voted in for the last 8 years. The economy, Iraq war, and health care, national debt, and the list goes on but that is enough to keep him occupied.
    Let's see here. We have the big ten anti 2A Senators. Obama will rubber stamp any legislation that makes it out of Congress since a majority of the anti-2A Senators and Congresspersons are Democrats. We have a Dem controlled House and Senate now, add a Dem President and we're going to see lots of gun control legislation getting plowed through with little or no effort.

    Obama won't have to do anything but sign the legislation. He doesn't have to do anything else but that. The legislative branch of the federal government does most of the work. The President just signs it into law or vetos it. Half the time the President doesn't even know what he's signing. That's how we ended up with the Hughes Amendment to the FOPA. We already have the basic framework of Nazi Germany here. The same circumstances with Hitler rising to power strikenly resemble what is happening now except our Hitler is named Obama. Germany was in a bad economic status at the time Hitler rose to power. Our current firearm laws are very similar to the Nazi Gun control laws as of 1938 with most of the framework being done in 1968.

    Gun control is part of Obama's Final Solution.
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    whatever. If you feel he is going to take you guns away lets put a wager on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwtollett21 View Post
    whatever. If you feel he is going to take you guns away lets put a wager on it.
    I live in Nevada. Don't bet against the house, you'll lose in the long run.

    You also can't cover the wager as my collection exceeds more than what you make in a year. A smart gambler doesn't take wager that cannot be covered.
    Last edited by netentity; 10-22-2008 at 05:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwtollett21 View Post
    Lets make a bet. If obama takes your guns away i will personally give you the value in money for them. If he doesnt' each one of you guys all buy me a nice pistol. Anybody want to take me up on that?
    Much like many government programs, this is something that would be really easy to cheat on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oregon Vet View Post
    About the only way a person can "have followed the election quite closely" and come up with answers/views like JW has is to only get perceptions from watching what they have been saying on TV or other focused advertisements.][/I]
    Exactly what I was trying to point out. Many listen to the campaign ads, which are nothing more than commercials, and give their vote to them. I wish that people would research past voting records and find out how the politician in question really feels on the issues.

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