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  1. #141
    ...Three of the four guns found with Sodini were traced back to him, and authorities are in the process of tracing the fourth, Moffatt said. They were two 9 mm semi-automatics, a .45-caliber revolver and a .38 in his pocket. Sodini also had 30-round ammunition clips that were illegal before the assault weapons ban was lifted in 2004, police said...
    Police: Gym shooter 'had a lot of hatred' for women, society - CNN.com

    Who want's to bet within days we will be hearing from some gun grabbing liberal politician that we need to ban something used in this shooting...

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  3. #142
    Halt the gun culture? There have been bigger fools than him try that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Why however, should people such as Eric Holder and Diane Feinstein be concerned with protecting themselves? They have armed guards to do just that.

    Dont forget that Fink-stein carries one herself...

  5. #144
    Main Line Media News

    Wednesday, August 12, 2009

    By Alex Rose
    Two days after announcing his candidacy for the U.S. Senate, U.S. Rep. Joseph Sestak, D-7, of Edgmont, urged his colleagues in the Legislature to reinstate an assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.

    In a release Thursday, Sestak pointed to an Aug. 4 shooting in Allegheny County, where George Sodini, 48, of Scott Township, used two 9 mm semi-automatics and a .45-caliber revolver to kill three women and wound nine others in an aerobics class before taking his own life.

    “As we continue to see the effects of the violence in our state and nation, we must enact legislation banning assault weapons with the necessary sense of urgency,” said Sestak. “The senseless shootings of so many innocent victims during an aerobics class in Allegheny County, and of the three police officers in Pittsburgh this past April, are heartbreaking reminders that we must immediately address the loss of the common-sense ban earlier this decade.”

    Police investigating the Collier Township shooting said Sodini bought his weapons legally from TGSCOM Inc., of Green Bay, Wis., the same dealer who sold a 22-caliber handgun to Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho.

    Typically, gun control is seen as a radioactive issue during statewide elections in Pennsylvania, which has a large contingent of hunters and gun owners on both sides of the aisle.

    Sestak said he is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and believes in an individual’s right to bear arms, but statistics following the 1994 implementation of the first assault weapons ban showed drastic reductions in police officer murders from assault weapons and an overall drop in such weapons being traced to a crime.

    “With regard to politics, I believe that what is most needed and valued by Pennsylvanians in their future leaders in Washington D.C., is placing principle above politics,” said Sestak. “I believe this is the right thing to do for the safety of our citizens, particularly law enforcement officers, while protecting legal citizens’ rights for protecting their homes, and for hunting and other recreational purposes.”

    Sestak is therefore reviving a bill that died in committee last session, which he and 67 other House Democrats had co-sponsored.

    That bill would revise the definition of a “semi-automatic assault weapon” to include any semiautomatic rifle or pistol that has specific characteristics, such as a telescoping stock, and can accept a detachable magazine.

    The bill also would prohibit the importation of any such weapon; “conversion kits” to turn weapons into semi-automatics; and the transfer of any assault weapon with a large-capacity ammunition-feeding device.

    Semi-automatic shotguns, pistols and rifles like the AK-47, the SKS, the UZI and the Bushmaster XM15 would fall under the ban, according to the release.

    Incumbent U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., Sestak’s opponent in the 2010 Senatorial primary election, said a hearing on the merits of such legislation should be held prior to any legislative action.

    Specter pointed to studies performed by the Department of Justice and the Centers for Disease Control, which have brought into question the effectiveness of banning assault weapons, and said in his experience as the former District Attorney of Philadelphia that long jail terms were traditionally the best way to deal with gun violence.

    “The study commissioned by DOJ found that although there was a decline in gun crimes involving assault weapons during the ban, a renewal of the ban would have a small effect on gun violence, perhaps too small for reliable measurement since assault weapons are rarely used in gun crimes,” said Specter.

    Former U.S. Rep. Pat Toomey, a Republican Senatorial candidate, also weighed in on Sestak’s call to reinstate the ban.

    “Whenever there’s an outrageous criminal use of guns, liberals like Joe Sestak always try to penalize law-abiding gun-owners rather than holding the criminals responsible,” said Toomey in a statement. “Sestak is wrong. We should punish criminals and protect gun ownership rights.”

    “As someone who served in the military for 31 years, I’ve spent most of my life around weapons,” said Sestak, a retired Navy vice admiral. “I support the legitimate right to bear arms and respect the many, many responsible gun owners of our state and the nation. However, there are those who are committing egregious acts of violence and their reprehensible actions on innocent victims and brave law enforcement officers must be stopped.”

  6. #145
    Welcome to California... leave your firearms at the border...

    ...First of all, we simply must rid our streets of assault weapons. As some of you know, I served in the Vietnam War and I know first-hand the destructive power of assault weapons. They have a place in a theater of war. They have no place in a civilized society.
    I am proud to say that just last month I signed a bill passed by the Legislature that will become effective January 1 of next year. It's the toughest assault weapons ban in America. But I pledge to you to do even more, and all that is necessary, to take assault weapons out of the hands of criminals and off the streets of our society...


    Press Release
    REMARKS BY GOVERNOR DAVIS AT THE NORTH VALLEY UNITY RALLY
    CAL-STATE NORTHRIDGE, CA / SUNDAY, AUGUST 15, 1999:

    Welcome to California

    Repeal the California Assault Weapons Ban/Protection of our Second Amendment:
    http://apps.facebook.com/causes/295834/1172063

    http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs.php


  7. Make no mistake about it. If the government wants your guns they will have them.

  8. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by torontogunguy View Post
    Make no mistake about it. If the government wants your guns they will have them.




    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

  9. #148
    NRA-ILA :: Chicago: Shootings rampant despite gun ban

    Chicago: Shootings rampant despite gun ban

    You cannot legally buy a handgun in Chicago, yet the city is the nation's most murderous city. You can own one, but only if you've owned it since before 1982, and it's registered every year with the Chicago Police Department. Gun control advocates and gun rights advocates don't or can't agree on how a city with a handgun ban can lead the nation in murders. To proponents of owning guns, it means the ban doesn't work.

    Read About It: The Austin Weekly News (Oak Park, IL)

    Posted: 8/27/2009 9:14:53 AM

  10. #149
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Gun Ban...
    City's plan to ban guns has NRA up in arms

  11. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by torontogunguy View Post
    Make no mistake about it. If the government wants your guns they will have them.
    It will cost them dearly.

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