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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by rockwerks View Post
    Prove it! with actual facts not crap you scrounged up on you tube or NRA stuff. Go to the congressional accounting office which tracks past votes on gun legislation and list who has voted for and against gun bills. It takes along time to do the research correctly but you will find that a majority of Democrats feel there should not be an AWB. Go ahead do actual research, list the congressman and his position from past votes. Put down your KOOLAID glass and research
    You only specified Congress so here's some examples:

    Norm Dicks (WA):

    Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
    Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
    Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)

    Jay Inslee (WA):

    Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
    Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
    Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)
    Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology. (Aug 2000)

    Jim McDermott (WA):

    Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
    Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
    Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)

    Darlene Hooley (OR):

    Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
    Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
    Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)
    Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology. (Aug 2000)

    Dianna Degette (CO):

    Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
    Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
    Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)

    Ed Perlmutter (CO):

    Ban semi- automatics; require child-safety locks. (Nov 1998)

    Tom Udall (NM):

    Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
    Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
    Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)
    Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology. (Aug 2000)

    David Loebsack (IA):

    Ban semi-automatics; require licenses & background checks. (Nov 2006)

    These are just a few of the past voting records and stances on gun control found at ontheissues.com an independent site for voting records. Maybe you should take a look at both Senate and Congress and see what to expect when the war on drugs becomes nasty. By the way there are more supporters of bringing back the AWB than you think. Here's one:

    Kerry: No National Guard to Southern Border, Bring Back Assault Weapons Ban - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

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  3. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by rockwerks View Post
    Prove it! with actual facts not crap you scrounged up on you tube or NRA stuff. Go to the congressional accounting office which tracks past votes on gun legislation and list who has voted for and against gun bills. It takes along time to do the research correctly but you will find that a majority of Democrats feel there should not be an AWB. Go ahead do actual research, list the congressman and his position from past votes. Put down your KOOLAID glass and research

    Constitutional Amendments - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net



    You might want to learn a bit about the constitution before you spout SPOBI again
    We all know you are a Obama lover, so you are not fooling anybody...

    Everything I posted is in fact, credible...

    You may so choose to believe what you want to believe or not; Marshal law has happened before and it could happen again; with out the approval of congress...

    You might actually want to look at what has transpired just since Gun Ban Obama and company took office... not to mention both Biden and Obama have a 100% anti-second amendment record and vp biden wrote the clinton gun ban... both have a solid F rating from the GOA and NRA...

    We are not talking about a constitutional amendment, we are talking about an executive order, that for the safety of the citizens, Obama could pass...
    Not withstanding that the 16th Amendment was not ratified fully as required and yet we still have the unconstitutional IRS and BATFE...

    The dems have a super majority in the house and senate, they can pass whatever they want without a single republican vote and have already done it this year...

    Not that the Obama lovers would not pass anything the Messiah want, but Obama has a free-pass right now...

    The facts are the majority of the democrats still in congressional office have a history of supporting-gun control...

    and are d-f rated by the NRA and the GOA, the two biggest pro-second amendment lobbies in the country if not the planet...

    you go ahead and keep your head in the sand, I myself and the members of this site that truly support the second amendment as written, will continue to see Gun Ban Obama and Company for what they are, and expect the worst and hope for the best...

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  4. #53
    Wednesday April 1st, 2009

    U.S. House & Senate:
    "...the anti-gun congressional leadership teamed up with "pro-gun" compromisers and passed the measure without protecting the Second Amendment."

    As Lands Bill Fight Ends

    In March, both the U.S. House and Senate finished up work on a massive, anti-gun $10 billion omnibus federal land bill.

    The bill had been held up for over a year in large part due to GOA members fighting for Second Amendment rights on federal land -- YOUR land.

    The Second Amendment has been null and void for many years on all land controlled by the National Park Service (NPS). While regulations promulgated in the waning days of the Bush administration partially reversed that gun ban, a federal judge recently blocked those rules from taking effect.

    GOA worked closely with pro-gun members of the House and Senate to add a complete repeal of the NPS gun prohibition to the larger land bill. While these efforts delayed passage of the bill, in the end the anti-gun congressional leadership teamed up with "pro-gun" compromisers and passed the measure without protecting the Second Amendment.

    In an effort to appease gun owners, language was added to the bill to protect hunting and fishing. But, as GOA pointed out to the Congress, the Founding Fathers did not pledge their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to protect a recreational pastime.

    The final attempt to protect the Second Amendment from NPS bureaucrats came on a procedural vote in the House that would have made in order an amendment, sponsored by pro-gun Reps. Doc Hastings (R-WA) and Rob Bishop (R-UT), to repeal the gun ban. That motion failed by a vote of 242-180.

    So now not only does the gun ban remain in place, the new bill greatly expands the total amount of NPS land. Since NPS-controlled parks and trails also include many busy roadways, hundreds of thousands of gun owners can unwittingly find themselves in violation of the gun ban without even knowing they are on federal land.

    Representatives Hastings and Bishop, along with Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA), have vowed to continue their efforts to wipe this unconstitutional gun ban from the books. In the Senate, Tom Coburn (R-OK) is also pushing for the repeal of the anti-gun NPS regulations.

    Gun Owners of America would like to thank the thousands upon thousands of email subscribers who repeatedly contacted their congressmen in this battle to protect the Second Amendment. We were sold out by compromisers this time, but we will "remember in November" those who voted against the Second Amendment.

    Please help spread the word so we can get even more people contacting their elected officials. As the late Senator Everett Dirksen said, "When I feel the heat, I see the light."

    And do we ever need to turn up the heat!

    Many important battles for your Second Amendment rights lay before us. For instance, Barack Obama and his anti-gun cronies are making a massive push to renew the Clinton semi-auto ban.

    The President and his Attorney General, Eric Holder, are blaming the current violence among Mexican drug cartels on firearms from the United States. This is another blatant attempt by anti-gun advocates to use whatever situation they can find to further erode your Second Amendment rights.

    The problems of corruption and violence in Mexico should not be used as an excuse to curtail your right to keep and bear arms. But once again law-abiding American gun owners are in danger of being punished for the criminal actions of others.

    The Clinton gun ban is just one of the attacks that you and GOA will be fighting.

    There is also a massive anti-gun bill in Congress, H.R. 45, that includes universal gun owner licensing and registration, and the Obama White House continues its efforts to ban private firearms transactions at gun shows.

    You can help us reach out to even more gun owners. Please forward this message to your friends and encourage them to sign up for the GOA email alerts.

    And if you haven't already become a member of GOA, consider joining. For a small amount of money such as $35, $50 or $100, you can join with other Americans to save our Constitutional rights.

    Thank you again for being part of the GOA team working to protect American liberty.

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    And yet the "blue noses" still call us conspiracy theorists!!! They blind themselves to facts so as not to be confused...

  6. #55
    Thursday April 02, 2009 6:59AM
    More Biased Media Calling For Weapons Ban:

    "...For starters, Congress must bring back the national ban on 19 types of military-style weapons it enacted in 1994 but allowed to expire."

    South Bend Tribune: Renew weapons ban

  7. #56
    Thursday April 2nd, 2009:
    CNN.com - Transcripts
    DOBBS: The Senate Judiciary Committee went down today, or at least a portion of it, under the leadership of Senator John F. Kerry, held hearing in El Paso, and amongst the things that Senator Kerry had to say was that he wanted to reinstate the assault weapons ban effectively following what has become an administration mantra to effectively roll back American Second Amendment rights, because that's necessary to stabilize northern Mexico.

  8. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Thursday April 2nd, 2009:
    CNN.com - Transcripts
    DOBBS: The Senate Judiciary Committee went down today, or at least a portion of it, under the leadership of Senator John F. Kerry, held hearing in El Paso, and amongst the things that Senator Kerry had to say was that he wanted to reinstate the assault weapons ban effectively following what has become an administration mantra to effectively roll back American Second Amendment rights, because that's necessary to stabilize northern Mexico.
    That is not enough proof for some. For some it will take their door being kicked in, guns taken and themselves taken away in chains. Even then they might say "show me some proof".
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Thursday April 2nd, 2009:
    CNN.com - Transcripts
    DOBBS: The Senate Judiciary Committee went down today, or at least a portion of it, under the leadership of Senator John F. Kerry, held hearing in El Paso, and amongst the things that Senator Kerry had to say was that he wanted to reinstate the assault weapons ban effectively following what has become an administration mantra to effectively roll back American Second Amendment rights, because that's necessary to stabilize northern Mexico.
    we should make a shoot on site law when illegals try and cross.

  10. #59
    Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt on CNN with Jane Valez Headline News - St Louis Call to Arms:
    YouTube - Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt on CNN with Jane Valez Headline News - St Louis Call to Arms

    Murder in America: Part 1 - Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt on CNN with Jane Valez Headline News:

    YouTube - Murder in America: Part 1 - Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt on CNN with Jane Valez Headline News

    Murder in America: Part 2 - Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt on CNN with Jane Valez Headline News
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    YouTube - Murder in America: Part 2 - Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt on CNN with Jane Valez Headline News

    Murder in America: Part 3 - Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt on CNN with Jane Valez Headline News:
    YouTube - Murder in America: Part 3 - Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt on CNN with Jane Valez Headline News

  11. #60
    Alan Keyes on the Second Amendment and gun rights:
    YouTube - Alan Keyes on the Second Amendment and gun rights

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