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    Talking Balanced???

    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Heck Canis I am sure by the Marxist, socialistic, one world order elitist way of thinking just about all of us patriotic, freedom loving, gun toting Americans which I dare say most of use on this site are, would be unbalanced. So in that regard I guess we are all in good company.
    I'm supposed to be balanced???

    You just cant go changing the rules on me like that.

    I'll be "RIGHT" over here if you need me.
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    I swore a modification of the oaths shown when I was sworn in as a deputy sheriff. While I am no longer active in law enforcement, I still hold that oath above all others execpt my marriage vows. You may count on me when and if needed.
    A man without a gun is a subject; a man with a gun is a citizen.
    I'll keep my freedom, my guns and my money. You can keep THE CHANGE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Heck Canis I am sure by the Marxist, socialistic, one world order elitist way of thinking just about all of us patriotic, freedom loving, gun toting Americans which I dare say most of use on this site are, would be unbalanced. So in that regard I guess we are all in good company.
    I'm a bit offended by this talk of being un-balanced............I may be a lil nuts..........but un-balanced
    catch me if you can..

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    Quote Originally Posted by boyzoi View Post
    I'm a bit offended by this talk of being un-balanced............I may be a lil nuts..........but un-balanced
    catch me if you can..
    Hey! I resemble that remark. Super glue and bubble gum are the only things keeping me from falling off the edge of the right wing. I'm hanging on by my fingernails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpbarth View Post
    Read the Declaration of Independence. One of the most important "declarations" there says:

    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    Now, this tells me that if our govenrment ceases to be "of, by and for the people," we have the right, authority and obligation to change it. And as a lot of government officials also take an oath (Obama will at his inauguration) to defend the Constitution, and obviously do not take that oath seriously, it is the people who will eventually need to make this country succeed. And survive. Time for a new patriotism, gentlemen!
    I'm probably going to get kicked off the forum for this, but in reading this post, I found it errily similar to William Ayers argument in favor of the Weather Underground's bombings of federal buildings in 1969. Ayers, often called a terrorist for his actions in protest to the Vietnam war, has argued that the government stops listening to the people, it is the responsibility of the people to change the government. In 1969, he used this arguement to justify bombing public buildings to "get the government's attention" after civil disobediance didn't work.

    The only reason I bring this up is as a word of caution - when we move too far left or too far right, we end up in the same place.
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    I went back and read the posts again. Perhaps I can not read so well but I did not see anything about blowing anything or anybody up.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    I went back and read the posts again. Perhaps I can not read so well but I did not see anything about blowing anything or anybody up.

    HK, she won't understand you because your post wasn't preceeded by the words "Point of clarification".



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    I didn't mean that anyone here was advocating blowing anything/one up (at least I really hope not), I was just struck by the similarily in arguement. Ayers was a terrorist, and I certainly don't condone his actions, but I thought it was interesting that his justification for his actions (even though they were wrong) was that the government was no longer listening to the will of the people. According to Ayers (I haven't personally looked up these statistics) something like 80% of the population in 1969 was opposed to the war in Vietnam. He claimed the government was no longer reflecting the will of the people, so "it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government." He claimed by using bombs, the Weather Underground was forcing the government to pay attention to the will of the people. I believe in one statment he even used the famous Jefferson quote about how the "tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots" (or something like that - I'm not sure of the exact quote).

    I only wanted to comment because I thought it was interesting that Ayers and his followers considered themselves patriots, as I imagine many people on this forum would consider themselves. Many people on this forum have also argued that when the government no longer represents the people, we have a right, if not a duty, to change the government. A few of the posts illustrating this philosophy are,

    "If we don't stand up now, what will the United States become?"
    Husky Girl

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    Well, they haven't kicked me off yet. No shortage of snide remarks and name-calling, though.
    Thanks for backing me up.
    Husky Girl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husky Girl View Post
    Well, they haven't kicked me off yet. No shortage of snide remarks and name-calling, though.
    Thanks for backing me up.
    Who's gonna kick you off? You're free to post what you like, as long is it's witin the rules of the forum. Look at that "JWtoilett" character. He's still posting, and has yet to post a ligitamate gun related post, or start a gun related thread.

    As far off your rocker as I think you are, unless you post something that grossly violates the forum rules, you're not going to get "kicked off". Only person I can recall that was actually "kicked off" was "LiquidG". He would post racist and other very nasty comments which were designed to incite a nasty response. None of your posts seem to be intentionally aimed at upsetting anyone, though a few of them have caused me to respond accordingly.

    No need to play the "marter" role here. Most of us are big boys and girls We can have a mature discussion. I don't mind folks calling me names, etc. I give it right back to them. We're all entitled to our opinions. We all believe in our 2A rights (or at least should), so it shouldn't be so shocking that we support folks exercising their 1A rights as well.



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