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  1. #11
    It's right in front of your eyes, the man with the Diazepam Pen is seen in numerous photos standing right beside Hillary, tell me why he would be there if not to assist her when she has a medical problem.
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  3. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    It's right in front of your eyes, the man with the Diazepam Pen is seen in numerous photos standing right beside Hillary, tell me why he would be there if not to assist her when she has a medical problem.
    That funny, it looks an awful lot like a flashlight to me.

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  4. #13
    It seems you guys have a denial problem when faced with proof of the existence of a medical device that may have been available to Her Hillaryness in her apparent time of dysfunction. The Diazepam pen, regardless of your denials, does exist and is on the market. The reference below is one of many I found about the device so you all are whizzing in the wind. Sad when you can't accept criticism of your candidate and her medical condition and try to refute available evidence which pokes holes in your denials. C'est si bon!



    http://www.tradewaysusa.com/Catalogu...s/Diazepam.pdf

  5. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    It seems you guys have a denial problem when faced with proof of the existence of a medical device that may have been available to Her Hillaryness in her apparent time of dysfunction. The Diazepam pen, regardless of your denials, does exist and is on the market. The reference below is one of many I found about the device so you all are whizzing in the wind. Sad when you can't accept criticism of your candidate and her medical condition and try to refute available evidence which pokes holes in your denials. C'est si bon!



    http://www.tradewaysusa.com/Catalogu...s/Diazepam.pdf
    Regardless of whether the Diazepam Pen exists, all of the CRAP your conspiracy theory points to has been debunked by Snopes.com.

    All the supposition you've posted is based on a single photograph that has been thoroughly debunked...at the very least, your "proof" is thin to non-existent.

    A. The pin the "Doctor" is wearing is infact NOT a medical pin.

    B. The man ID'd as the "Doctor" is obviously not the same person as the Doctor "ID'd" by some conservative internet rag when you compare them side by side, and has been postitively ID'd as Secret Service Assistant Special Agent in Charge Todd Madison.

    C. Image in question is too blurry to definitively say if it is in fact a flash light or a Diazepam pen, plus the device in question is shown in a video being used as a flashlight by Secret Service Assistant Special Agent in Charge Todd Madison.

    All of this can easily be verified on Snopes.com following this link.

    So at the end of the day, it's not about rejecting criticism as it is exposing and calling out a crappy poster, spewing more of his unreliable rumor mongering. Opsspec1991 is a conspiracy nut bag who never leaves his basement and believes anything the tin foil hat brigade will spew. It's not a matter of being liberal or conservative...its a matter of calling someone out as a liar and a nut job....sort of like calling Trump out for what he is, a lying, self-indulgent puss bag who will lie to get whatever he wants.

  6. #15
    Gry: First, I am not supporting a conspiracy theory one way or another. My comment was directed to Sten, who adamantly denied the existence of a Diazepam pen. That is his favorite tactic, denying something exists if it throws his theories in a bad light, which happens quite often. I didn't make any conjectures toward who the fellow is with the pen, Secret Service, medical personage, or autograph seeker. As for the rest of your post being "verified" by Snopes, the comment by them was "Unproven," not false. As far as a conspiracy theory, I would say this one is as good, or bad, as any other, and only in the mind of the individual. But, yes, the Diazepam auto-injector pen does exist!

  7. #16
    SNOPES.com Exposed: Left Wing Website Not Quite the Impartial Arbiter of Truth
    April 5, 2010 by Johnny Alamo
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    If you’re like me, the first thing You did when you received an e-mail saying that the moon was full of UFOs or that President Obama was a Kenyan trained Ninja assasin, you went off to SNOPES.com to see what the deal was with those crazy e-mails. And for the most part, SNOPES has been a reliable informant on the truth about these Urban legends.
    Or . . . apparently not. I began to notice that Snopes was taking more of a Leftist tack with things I obviously knew to be true, and was unwilling to revise their opinion when things went more for the right-wing than the lefties. This message board post HERE agrees, especially when it comes to politics; and especially lefty politics.
    (And just in case this Message Board post “disappears,” I’ve reprinted the post in toto so it will be archived. Should the author have any problems with that, they can contact me and we’ll fix it post-haste; but as of this printing they haven’t responded to my e-mails.)
    For those of you that think snopes is god when it comes to knowing the truth or not. By the way you might want to check this out on snopes.
    I present this for your own evaluation.
    Who “Snopes” are was written up in READERS DIGEST and agrees with this account.
    (no politcal bias was mentioned in the article).
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    You can’t trust Snopes SNOPES EXPOSED
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    For the past few years http://www.snopescom/ has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the ‘tell-all final word’ on any comment, claim and email. But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com. Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it – kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a husband and wife team – that’s right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It’s just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby. David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation?
    The reason for the questions – or skepticisms – is a result of Snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the ‘true’ bottom of various issues. SNOPES EXPOSED
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    For the past few years http://www.snopescom/ has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the ‘tell-all final word’ on any comment, claim and email. But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com. Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it – kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a husband and wife team – that’s right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It’s just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby. David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation?
    The reason for the questions – or skepticisms – is a result of Snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the ‘true’ bottom of various issues.
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    A few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the Internet, ‘supposedly’ the Mikkelson’s claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort ‘ever’ took place. I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this and I gave him Bud Gregg’s contact phone numbers – and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec’s at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg that no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm.
    Yet, Snopes.com issued a statement as the ‘final factual word’ on the issue as if they did all their homework and got to the bottom of things – not!
    Then it has been learned the Mikkelson’s are very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the Internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson’s liberalism revealing itself in their website findings.
    Gee, what a shock?
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    So, I say this now to everyone who goes to snopes.com to get what they think to be the bottom line fact ‘proceed with caution.’ Take what it says at face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that’s all the Mikkelson’s do. After all, I can personally vouch from my own experience for their ‘not’ fully looking into things.
    http://http//www.wikipedia.org/ or http://http//www.snopes.com/
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    I have found this to be true also! Many videos of Obama I tried to verify on Snopes and they said they were False. Then they gave their liberal slant! I have suspected some problems with Snopes for some time now, but I have only caught them in half-truths. If there is any subjectivity they do an immediate full left rudder.
    Truth or Fiction, is a better source for verification, in my opinion.
    TruthOrFiction.com-Is that forwarded email Truth or Fiction? Research into stories, scams, hoaxes, myths, and urban legends on the Internet
    I have recently discovered that Snopes.com is owned by a flaming liberal and this man is in the tank for Obama. There are many things they have listed on their site as a hoax and yet you can go to You tube yourself and find the video of Obama actually saying these things. So you see, you cannot and should not trust Snopes.com, ever for anything that remotely resembles truth! I don’t even trust them to tell me if email chains are hoaxes anymore.
    A few conservative speakers on MySpace told me aboutSnopes.com. A few months ago and I took it upon myself to do a little research to find out if it was true. Well, I found out for myself that it is true. Anyway just FYI please don’t use Snopes.com anymore for fact checking and make your friends aware of their political leanings as well. Many people still think Snopes.com is neutral and they can be trusted as factual. We need to make sure everyone is aware that that is a hoax in itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    Gry: First, I am not supporting a conspiracy theory one way or another. My comment was directed to Sten, who adamantly denied the existence of a Diazepam pen. That is his favorite tactic, denying something exists if it throws his theories in a bad light, which happens quite often. I didn't make any conjectures toward who the fellow is with the pen, Secret Service, medical personage, or autograph seeker. As for the rest of your post being "verified" by Snopes, the comment by them was "Unproven," not false. As far as a conspiracy theory, I would say this one is as good, or bad, as any other, and only in the mind of the individual. But, yes, the Diazepam auto-injector pen does exist!
    No link, no pen.

    Pretty simple.

    Paul

  9. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Stengun View Post
    Howdy OG,



    No link, no pen.

    Pretty simple.

    Paul
    Yes Sten, as I said, your favorite tactic is to deny the existence of anything that disproves your theories. Thank you for being consistent and proving my point. All you are doing is ignoring the information you want. So sad.

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    Howdy OG,

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    Yes Sten, as I said, your favorite tactic is to deny the existence of anything that disproves your theories. Thank you for being consistent and proving my point. All you are doing is ignoring the the information you want. So sad.
    No link, no pen.

    Pretty simple.

    Paul
    I'm so Liberal that I work at the Bill and Hillary Clinton Regional Airport!

  11. #20
    So explain what is in his hand, which people have stated is there all the time with Hillary.
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