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  1. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Christianity is a relationship and not a religion. Christianity is man getting to God, God's way, through Jesus ONLY. Religion is man's attempt to get to God man's way, that being any way EXCEPT through Jesus. GOD HATES RELIGION.
    Christianity is a Religion.

    As are Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shinto, Confucianism, Jainism, the multitude of Chinese folk religions, Zoroasterianism, etc.

    All ideas which do not qualify as Philosophy or Science are religions.

    A relationship is what you have with your wife. Not with religion.

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  3. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Reba View Post
    What religion is that which people follow that you find acceptable?


    In your mind, although not original. God foresaw that, too.

    I Corinthians 1: 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
    The old books like the Bible, the Quran, Bagvadgita, etc., are not fortune tellers or newspapers.

    They are really old books of doctrine and dogma and ancient experiences of persons like Moses, the apostles, and Muhammad from hundreds if not thousands of years ago.

    It is totally wacko to think these books foretell of the future.

    Nobody knows the future.

  4. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Reba View Post
    The relationship between a believer and Christ is spirit-to-spirit, not flesh-to-flesh, although we will also someday see Him face-to-face. The spiritual relationship then will already have been established.


    I wouldn't base any of my beliefs about anything on a movie character's words.
    Your only "relationship" good or bad is with your hubby.

    And Jesus is not your hubby.

    News flash.

  5. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    That "Book" was first written on perishable materials, and was copied many times before the printing press came into being. The Scriptures have not diminished nor have they faded away. Voltaire said that Christianity would cease to exist one hundred years from his time. Oddly enough, the printing press came about fifty years after his death and the Geneva Bible Society produced Bibles
    by the stacks. Those who would deny the Bible have come and gone yet, the Bible remains. Jesus said in Mark 13:31, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away." The Bible has more manuscript evidence to support it than any classical literature.

    The "predictions of the future" from a thousand year old book you allude to are known as prophecy. In Deut. 18, a prophet was considered false if his prophecies were never fulfilled. No unconditional prophecies of the Bible about events to the present have gone unfulfilled. The coming of Jesus was foretold in the Old Testament: (The time: Dan 9); (city: Mic.5:2) and( nature: Isa.7:14.) Mohammedanism cannot point to any prophecies uttered hundreds of years before his birth. Neither can the founders of any cult in this country rightly identify any ancient text specifically foretelling their appearance. There are other books such as the Book of Mormon and the Koran that claim to have come about through divine inspiration but none contain predictive prophecy. Fulfilled prophecy strongly suggests the unique, divine authority of the Bible. Check this reference for fulfilled prophecies to show the truth of Biblical prophecies: 60 Genuine divine Bible prophecies fulfilled.

    In his book Religions of the World, Niels Nielsen presents twelve common characteristics found in most religions. For all, there is a belief in the supernatural. They promote moral codes or ethical principles to guide individuals and communities. They have sacred stories to guide them and their own religious books. In our religion, we have the Bible which is, and has been, remarkable in leading and guiding us for centuries. If, in light of the fulfilled prophecies of the Bible, one still refuses to accept to believe, as you said, "That qualifies as being wacko." Common Characteristics of Religions.
    When are you going to come to grips with the reality that it was never a "book".

    They were individual scrolls.

    The early pre-Catholic Christian church assembled them all into one codex around 325 A.D.

    They are not a book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    . . .

    A relationship is what you have with your wife. Not with religion.
    If you use a dictionary or thesaurus, you will find out that marriage isn't the only kind of relationship one can have.

    A relationship is a connection. That connection can be spiritual, physical, legal, business, blood or other ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    Your only "relationship" good or bad is with your hubby.

    And Jesus is not your hubby.

    News flash.
    News flash. A dictionary can be your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    The old books like the Bible, the Quran, Bagvadgita, etc., are not fortune tellers or newspapers.

    They are really old books of doctrine and dogma and ancient experiences of persons like Moses, the apostles, and Muhammad from hundreds if not thousands of years ago.

    It is totally wacko to think these books foretell of the future.

    Nobody knows the future.
    God knows, and in His mercy has shared some of that knowledge with His people thru His inspired Word, the Holy Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    When are you going to come to grips with the reality that it was never a "book".

    They were individual scrolls.

    The early pre-Catholic Christian church assembled them all into one codex around 325 A.D.

    They are not a book.
    The Scriptures weren't originally written in book form but so what? As God has wanted His Word widely distributed He has provided man with increasing methods of spreading His Word. Hand copying, then printing presses of increasing technology, audio recordings, downloads of apps, CD's are some of them. I have a collection of the Scriptures in American Sign Language on DVD's.

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    HKS, you still haven't answered this question: "What religion is that which people follow that you find acceptable?"

    Also, why do you attend Catholic church services if you don't believe in that religion? What do you get out of that?

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    A person that believes in nothing higher that themselves, has no reason for living............

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