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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    When are you going to come to grips with the reality that it was never a "book".

    They were individual scrolls.

    The early pre-Catholic Christian church assembled them all into one codex around 325 A.D.

    They are not a book.
    HKS: FYI, they were a book.

    book
    bo͝ok/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a written or printed work consisting of pages glued or sewn together along one side and bound in covers.
    "a book of selected poems"
    synonyms: volume, tome, publication, title; More
    2.

    a bound set of blank sheets for writing or keeping records in.
    "an accounts book"
    synonyms: notebook, notepad, pad, memo pad, exercise book, workbook; More
    verb
    1.
    reserve (accommodations, a place, etc.); buy (a ticket) in advance.
    "I have booked a table at the Swan"
    synonyms: reserve, make a reservation for, prearrange, order; More
    2.
    make an official record of the name and other personal details of (a criminal suspect or offender).
    "the cop booked me and took me down to the station"

    co·dex
    ˈkōˌdeks/Submit
    noun
    an ancient manuscript text in book form.
    an official list of medicines, chemicals, etc.

    The codex began to replace the scroll almost as soon as it was invented. In Egypt, by the fifth century, the codex outnumbered the scroll by ten to one based on surviving examples. By the sixth century, the scroll had almost vanished as a medium for literature.

    Despite its rather austere appearance, the Codex Sinaiticus is a treasure beyond price. Produced in the middle of the fourth century, the Codex is one of the two earliest Christian Bibles. (The other is the Codex Vaticanus in Rome.)

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  3. #182
    HKS: I notice you have a problem with the definition of "relationship," as in one having a relationship with God. To quote a line by Brad Pitt in a movie saying a relationship with God would be one-sided is an odd way of trying to prove a point. Movies, for the most part, are fictional; a relationship with God is the ultimate form of reality. A basic meaning for relationship is:

    re·la·tion·ship
    rəˈlāSH(ə)nˌSHip/
    noun
    the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or people are connected, or the state of being connected.
    "the study will assess the relationship between unemployment and political attitudes"
    synonyms: connection, relation, association, link, correlation, correspondence, parallel, alliance, bond, interrelation, interconnection
    "the relationship between diet and diabetes"
    the state of being connected by blood or marriage.
    "they can trace their relationship to a common ancestor"
    synonyms: family ties, family connections, blood ties, blood relationship, kinship, affinity, consanguinity, common ancestry, common lineage
    "evidence of their relationship to Buffalo Bill Cody"
    the way in which two or more people or organizations regard and behave toward each other.
    "the landlord–tenant relationship"

    With God, we establish our relationship by acknowledging Jesus as God's son, accepting that claim, and accepting the gift of atonement for our sins He gave us by His death on the cross. The relationship is not physical but spiritual. We have relationships every day with people without it being physical, as with a spouse.

    There is another to relationship with God. John 1:12 says: "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." This denotes a familial relationship. Spiritual, but never the less, a familial relationship.

    Another area in which you seem to be confused is the difference between philosophy and religion, "All ideas which do not qualify as Philosophy or Science are religions." I would strongly suggest you look into the Five Branches of Philosophy and possibly reconsider your statement.

    Discussions about religion with you would be very interesting if you could enter without asserting that most religious thought is wrong. You disagree with a lot but you have yet to give a basis or reason for your doubt If you are going to make assertions against religion, give us some reference to back up your claims. That would be enjoyable for most on here and educational for all.

  4. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    A person that believes in nothing higher that themselves, has no reason for living............
    Good description of atheism and agnosticism.

    I am a deist however, but not a theist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Because God uses prophecy to prove He is who He says He is, and to authenticate all the warnings and the promises found in the Bible, it's so easy to recognize yesterday's prophesies in our news everyday. Any student of Bible prophecy can see the stage presently being set for the terrible War of Psalm 83 and the annihilation of Damascus (Isaiah 17) that will change the world as we know it. Considering that we are already 69 years into this Last Generation (1948-2028) the exponential growth of last days events will rapidly increase in 2017.

    Another day closer.

    ~ God Hates Religion ~
    "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be condemned to HELL"

  6. #185
    The watchman's watch is stuck in time of the ignorance of long dead goat herders that didn't have a clue where the sun went every night.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

  7. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    The watchman's watch is stuck in time of the ignorance of long dead goat herders that didn't have a clue where the sun went every night.
    Nah, his watch and mine are keeping perfect time together!
    ISRAEL Is God's Prophetic Timepiece...it's 11:59-sand-glass-cartoon-time-hour-clock-watch.png

  8. #187
    People who are obsessed with religion, either pro or con, have too much time on their hands.

    There are lots of more useful things to do with your life --

    - environment service to clean up the Earth;

    - humanitarian relief to help less fortunate people;

    - animal rescue to help the other mammals, fishes, and birds who also are also conscious beings and who also suffer from deprivation.

    Poring over thousand year old books and babbling about the future from their pages is a complete waste of time.

    Does not matter who has brainwashed you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    People who are obsessed with religion, either pro or con, have too much time on their hands.

    There are lots of more useful things to do with your life --

    - environment service to clean up the Earth;

    - humanitarian relief to help less fortunate people;

    - animal rescue to help the other mammals, fishes, and birds who also are also conscious beings and who also suffer from deprivation.

    Poring over thousand year old books and babbling about the future from their pages is a complete waste of time.

    Does not matter who has brainwashed you.
    You're the one who seems obsessed with the concept of "religion."

    Christians who are living in the Lord's will do those things you list and a lot more. We work within our communities at all kinds of professions and avocations. Being a good citizen and neighbor isn't mutually exclusive to being a good Christian.

  10. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Reba View Post
    You're the one who seems obsessed with the concept of "religion."

    Christians who are living in the Lord's will do those things you list and a lot more. We work within our communities at all kinds of professions and avocations. Being a good citizen and neighbor isn't mutually exclusive to being a good Christian.
    The important thing to realize is that there are 3 or 4 major thought systems.

    Religion is only one of them. Tradition is another. Philosophy is a third and Science is a fourth.

    It is important not to let any of them obsess you.

    While no one would put on a suicide vest and blow themselves up for tradition, philosophy, or science -- it does happen under religion.

    Religion is a powerful opiate of the masses.

    And if you have been brainwashed by religion it is important to discover and note this.

    Babbling from a several thousand year old book and thinking it contains the future in it is as insane as doing so from one that is only 14 centuries like the muslim extremists do.

  11. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    People who are obsessed with religion, either pro or con, have too much time on their hands.

    There are lots of more useful things to do with your life --

    - environment service to clean up the Earth;

    - humanitarian relief to help less fortunate people;

    - animal rescue to help the other mammals, fishes, and birds who also are also conscious beings and who also suffer from deprivation.

    Poring over thousand year old books and babbling about the future from their pages is a complete waste of time.

    Does not matter who has brainwashed you.
    HKS: When you try to enter a religious discussion, you are merely trolling. You do not make sense when you post. First, you said you were a Catholic but do not seem familiar with Catholic Doctrine. Now, you profess to be a Deist. Deism is a religious belief holding that God created the universe and established rationally comprehensible moral and natural laws but does not intervene in human affairs through miracles or supernatural revelation.
    You have tried to argue using philosophy when you, there again, don't seem to know what philosophy is. You refuse to acknowledge that the ancient manuscripts were amassed and put into a book. You didn't know that a codex was a book. The Bible is indeed a book containing the information from the old manuscripts. As I told you before, brainwashing means someone is forced to believe something. Christians are not forced into believing in God, we do it voluntarily.

    There is apparently a lot you don't know about religion and, rather than attempt to belittle people who study it, you should try reading for yourself. There are a lot of topics you might find interesting, i.e., Kelbrin Bible, Book of Enoch, and even The Book of Giants. There is a lot to religion and many, many interesting stories which can convince you of the existence of God and the fact that He has not left us to flounder alone in the universe.

    Also, all the things you mention people can do with their lives are alluded to in the Bible as acts of believers in God and are done as a matter of course by following the teachings of Jesus. Believing in Him is easy. Not believing takes a tremendous effort to be wrong! Most comments to you by the various posters have given a Biblical reference to fortify their stand. Whether you believe them or not, they are from God and He says in Isa. 55:11, "So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; it shall not return void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it" The purpose of the Bible is the salvation of our souls and life eternal with God. Grab it while you can.

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