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    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    I agree that the no fly list has major problems, people get on it who should have never been there, hell Edward Kennedy was on it once, but when stop and frisk was used in NYC the murders and gun crime was reduced by almost 75%, so I would say it worked and thousands of minorities are alive because of it.
    A police state is very safe, except for the crimes committed by the police and the state. Stop and frisk is a violation of the 4th Amendment. The only time I personally experienced stop and frisk was in communist countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    A police state is very safe, except for the crimes committed by the police and the state. Stop and frisk is a violation of the 4th Amendment. The only time I personally experienced stop and frisk was in communist countries.
    You wouldn't think like that if you were living in NYC before they stopped S&F and then after, the communities were a whole lot safer when it was being conducted, with a large number of killings that were greatly reduced while it was being conducted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    You wouldn't think like that if you were living in NYC before they stopped S&F and then after, the communities were a whole lot safer when it was being conducted, with a large number of killings that were greatly reduced while it was being conducted.
    So, you are justifying the suspension of Constitutional rights for the illusion of increased personal safety. Good luck with that approach.

    “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    Logic is certainly not your fortune, isn't it. If I realized months ago that Hillary is going to win, that would also mean that I realized months ago that there is nothing I can do to change that. The moment Donald Trump was the presumptive Republican nominee was the moment Hillary won. Unfortunately, folks like you will only realize this on November 9. Meanwhile, Hillary can say whatever she wants. That doesn't mean I wet my pants (like you?). As I posted above, I am preparing for the inevitable and for what comes next.

    You somehow still believe that Trump is some kind of savior. You know, the guy who throws your constitutional rights under the bus for law and order. As you pay ZERO attention, you have not noticed how Trump wants to institute stop-and-frisk to take people's guns away and how he supports Hillary's position on no-fly-no-by for guns. According to Trump, all in the name of making sure that bad guys don't get their hands on guns. Trump is just another gun control advocate with the blessing of the NRA. Running his big mouth on supporting the 2A won't change that. However, none of this matters as he simply will not win.
    I hate to say it but I think Trump's number one job is to make sure Hillary wins. And he became the Republican nominee because the Republicans in power also want Hillary to win.

    The progressive agenda of returning to having a King (Queen? But then I repeat myself) again is chugging along at top speed as planned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    I hate to say it but I think Trump's number one job is to make sure Hillary wins.
    If that wasn't absolutely clear before, it should be after his middle of the night twitter frenzy, asking followers to search for porn of a woman he insulted 20 years ago....

    The boy ain't got both oars in the water.
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    It makes absolutely zero difference at this point in time who occupies the Oval Office. Due to just the national debt alone America can never be brought back. In FACT the only way that America can survive is to relinquish it's sovereignty and assimilate into the New World Order, which has been the agenda of both parties all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    It makes absolutely zero difference at this point in time who occupies the Oval Office. Due to just the national debt alone America can never be brought back.
    While the NWO is mostly just another conspiracy theory, the first part of your statement is on the mark. The National Debt tsunami started with Regan, and has continued with every president since.

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    A lot of political spin has been dogging Trump because he had a beauty contestant who was under contract to keep her weight & then gained 30 lbs., which he ridiculed her for, but everyone is missing the fact that he backed her up after the contest committee wanted to fire her and not only helped her loose the weight but wouldn't let her get fired for voiding her contract. But let's also remember what Hillary did to all of the women that were abused, raped and taken advantage of while in the Whitehouse by Bill. She also called them names, had under cover privet detectives harass them, slit there car tires, threaten their children with harm and in the end, wasn't it Hillary who stated that female accusers should be considered to be telling the truth and then she did the exact opposite.
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    To compare what Trump did and what Hillary did, there's no comparison, women were harmed under Hillary, a woman was embarrassed under Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    A lot of political spin has been dogging Trump because he had a beauty contestant who was under contract to keep her weight & then gained 30 lbs., which he ridiculed her for, but everyone is missing the fact that he backed her up after the contest committee wanted to fire her and not only helped her loose the weight but wouldn't let her get fired for voiding her contract. But let's also remember what Hillary did to all of the women that were abused, raped and taken advantage of while in the Whitehouse by Bill. She also called them names, had under cover privet detectives harass them, slit there car tires, threaten their children with harm and in the end, wasn't it Hillary who stated that female accusers should be considered to be telling the truth and then she did the exact opposite.
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    To compare what Trump did and what Hillary did, there's no comparison, women were harmed under Hillary, a woman was embarrassed under Trump.
    The side effects of voting for and nominating a candidate who hasn't been properly vetted during other campaigns or in the primaries. Trump has many other skeletons in his closet, including illegal traveling to and spending money in Cuba. Nothing that a late-night/early-morning Twitter binge that mentions the sex tapes of a former Miss Universe can fix, right?

    Pointing toward Hillary to excuse Trumps past is nonsensical. It just affirms that both are unfit for duty. Who cares, however. Everyone will just vote for the lesser evil and hope for the best, right?

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    Since your on a pro gun web site, I will assume that you are also pro gun, so the question that needs to be asked is, do you trust her after she makes a statement "if the 2A is a right" to not go against your gun rights if she get's elected and that is just one of many items she want's to do that will change our country for the next 30 years, -IE- appointing liberal non constitutional people to the Supreme Court.
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