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    A Clear Shot: In Position to Knock Down The Worst Anti-2A Laws (with your help)

    Finally, we have a clear shot and are in position to knock down the worst anti-2A laws in the country.

    By Jan. 3, 2017, the new House and Senate will be in session, both controlled by Republicans. By Jan. 20, 2017, the Presidency will be as well.

    The next U.S. Supreme Court Justice will be selected by a President Trump, not by the Clintons and Obamas of the world.

    Already, tens of thousands of dollars have been raised by members of the FPC and FPF in preparation for lawsuits to take down numerous laws which were enacted in July 2016 in California, and also in preparation to challenge Proposition 63 in the courts if voters were to pass it (which they did).

    But as of today, about sixty thousand dollars remain to be raised in order to ensure that the various laws and regulations pertaining to them can be overturned once and for all.

    Your help is needed to challenge these laws. For the price of a cup of coffee, you can defend the rights of everyone across the United States.
    Donate here (not tax deductible) and be entered to win a gun. (Donate / enter before end of November for chance to win.)
    Or, donate here (you won't be entered to win a gun, but the donation is tax deductible). (Not date-limited, donate anytime.)

    This is the same organization that has been fighting in court to overturn SB 707 (the law that restricts the rights of concealed carriers) and also fought the state in court when it restricted the speech of a prominent blogger, who published a "tyrant's list."

    This is not only important for people in California, but across the nation. For cases that are appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, the decisions will be considered to be binding for Alaska, Arizona, California, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington. In instances where gun rights groups do not win the cases at the Court of Appeals level, these cases will no doubt continue and will likely be appealed all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court. In which case, the decisions will be binding for everyone across the United States.

    The laws to be challenged:

    AB 857 – The Gutted and Amended Restriction On Curios, Relics and Home-Built Firearms: Would require retroactive serialization and registration of firearms from the past 50 years, including home-builts, as well as curio and relics. (Has been signed into law by the Governor.) Would create a precedent for registration that does not yet exist, and needs to be challenged in the courts.
    AB 1135 – The Gutted and Amended “Assault Weapons” Ban: Part of a bill package that would ban 70 percent of all firearms in CA. (Has been signed into law by the Governor.)
    AB 1511 – The Gutted and Amended Bill that Criminalizes Loaning Firearms (Has been signed into law by the Governor.)
    AB 1695 – The Bill Which Assumes Firearms Owners Are Guilty Until Proven Innocent (Has been signed into law by the Governor.)
    SB 880 – Expands “Assault Weapons” Ban to Include “Bullet Button” Semi-Auto Rifles, Pistols: Part of bill package that would ban 70 percent of all firearms in CA (Has been signed into law by the Governor.)
    SB 1446 – Ban on ALL Magazines that were Designed to Hold More than 10 Rounds, even those already legal under CA law (Has been signed into law by the Governor) - Would create a precedent for ban on owning property.
    SB 1235 (de Leon) --Restrictions on ammunition purchases, creates a DOJ database of ammunition owners. (Has been signed into law by the Governor.) Would create a precedent for registration of ammunition and, by banning shipping of ammunition direct to customer's door, would be an unconstitutional restriction on commerce (violation of Commerce Clause).
    Proposition 63 -- Similar to SB 1235, but even worse.

    Donate today and preserve our rights for future generations.


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    KEEP THE DONATIONS COMING!!!

    Since I posted this, the FPC has confirmed they are now just 50,000 dollars away from their goal of being able to sue the State to overturn these laws. Tens of thousands have already been raised... And with donors' help, we've got another 10k down, 50k to go!

    Donate / enter here before end of November for chance to win a gun (not tax deductible)

    Donate here to make a tax-deductible donation to the legal fund (does not result in entry to win a gun)

    Thank you!
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    As of today, Nov. 21, 2016, the FPC has confirmed that they are now just 45,000 dollars away from their goal of being able to have the funds to sue the State to overturn these anti-2A laws. Please continue to donate. If you have already donated please spread the links below on your social media. Thank you.

    1) https://www.firearmspolicy.org/conte...i-gun-doj-now/

    2) Gunpocalypse - Firearms Policy Foundation

    Time is of the essence as these funds must be raised before the end of November!
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    As of today, November 29, 2016, the FPC has confirmed that they are now just 30,000 dollars away from their goal of being able to have funds to sue the State of California to overturn the anti-2A laws.

    Please CONTINUE to spread these links (new ones now available below) on your social media! Donate again if possible! Thank you!

    1) Sig Sauer Signup - Firearms Policy Foundation (Firearms Policy Foundation) Donate here and your donation will be tax deductible. AS AN ADDED BONUS, FIREARMS POLICY FOUNDATION ALSO HAS JUST PROVIDED A SIG SAUER WHICH ANYONE CAN ENTER TO WIN!

    2) https://www.facebook.com/gunpolicy/p...59658744125909 (Firearms Policy Coalition) Donate here and also be entered to win a POF P308 AR-10! (Donations to Firearms Policy Coalition are NOT tax deductible.) This contest is only open until end of November.

    Donate, spread the word, protect our rights!
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    As of today, November 30, 2016, at 6:00 P.M. Pacific (PST), the FPC has confirmed that they are now just 25,000 dollars away from their goal of being able to have funds by the end of November to sue the State of California to overturn the anti-2A laws.

    We are still short of our goal and November is almost over!

    Please CONTINUE to spread these links (new ones now available below) on your social media! Donate again if possible! Thank you!

    1) Sig Sauer Signup - Firearms Policy Foundation (Firearms Policy Foundation) Donate here and your donation will be tax deductible. AS AN ADDED BONUS, FIREARMS POLICY FOUNDATION ALSO HAS JUST PROVIDED A SIG SAUER WHICH ANYONE CAN ENTER TO WIN!

    2) https://www.facebook.com/gunpolicy/p...59658744125909 (Firearms Policy Coalition) Donate here and also be entered to win a POF P308 AR-10! (Donations to Firearms Policy Coalition are NOT tax deductible.) This contest is only open until end of November.

    Donate, spread the word, protect our rights!
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    As an update to this, today (about 4 hours ago) I got an unsolicited e-mail from the Coalition for Civil Liberties (I'm on their e-mail list since I've donated to them before).

    Their e-mail update stated in part,

    "we’re filing lawsuits to fight back against Prop 63 – and other Second Amendment issues – in court. And with your help, it’s going to happen this week."

    I'm not donating any more until I see those lawsuits filed. If they say it's happening this week they can file it this week, then I'll donate some more. But I do get tired of hearing that it's going to happen, going to happen, going to happen. I've donated enough and have spent a lot of time spreading the word about FPC / FPF, Calguns, and Coalition for Civil Lliberties fundraising campaigns which are supposedly intended to raise fees for legal cases to overturn Gunpocalypse laws signed into law July 2016, and to overturn Prop 63.

    So I'll wait and see if they do in fact file lawsuits this week. Until they do file the lawsuits to actually overturn the laws themselves (not just the policies or regulations), I will continue to ask and suggest if anyone else, like me, has been investigating into doing it themselves (challenging these (CA) laws in federal court (possibly under 42 USC § 1983), or developing a bill of peace / class action lawsuit).
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    Quote Originally Posted by freethink View Post
    Finally, we have a clear shot and are in position to knock down the worst anti-2A laws in the country.

    By Jan. 3, 2017, the new House and Senate will be in session, both controlled by Republicans. By Jan. 20, 2017, the Presidency will be as well.

    The next U.S. Supreme Court Justice will be selected by a President Trump, not by the Clintons and Obamas of the world.

    Already, tens of thousands of dollars have been raised by members of the FPC and FPF in preparation for lawsuits to take down numerous laws which were enacted in July 2016 in California, and also in preparation to challenge Proposition 63 in the courts if voters were to pass it (which they did).

    But as of today, about sixty thousand dollars remain to be raised in order to ensure that the various laws and regulations pertaining to them can be overturned once and for all.

    Your help is needed to challenge these laws. For the price of a cup of coffee, you can defend the rights of everyone across the United States.
    Donate here (not tax deductible) and be entered to win a gun. (Donate / enter before end of November for chance to win.)
    Or, donate here (you won't be entered to win a gun, but the donation is tax deductible). (Not date-limited, donate anytime.)

    This is the same organization that has been fighting in court to overturn SB 707 (the law that restricts the rights of concealed carriers) and also fought the state in court when it restricted the speech of a prominent blogger, who published a "tyrant's list."

    This is not only important for people in California, but across the nation. For cases that are appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, the decisions will be considered to be binding for Alaska, Arizona, California, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington. In instances where gun rights groups do not win the cases at the Court of Appeals level, these cases will no doubt continue and will likely be appealed all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court. In which case, the decisions will be binding for everyone across the United States.

    The laws to be challenged:

    AB 857 – The Gutted and Amended Restriction On Curios, Relics and Home-Built Firearms: Would require retroactive serialization and registration of firearms from the past 50 years, including home-builts, as well as curio and relics. (Has been signed into law by the Governor.) Would create a precedent for registration that does not yet exist, and needs to be challenged in the courts.
    AB 1135 – The Gutted and Amended “Assault Weapons” Ban: Part of a bill package that would ban 70 percent of all firearms in CA. (Has been signed into law by the Governor.)
    AB 1511 – The Gutted and Amended Bill that Criminalizes Loaning Firearms (Has been signed into law by the Governor.)
    AB 1695 – The Bill Which Assumes Firearms Owners Are Guilty Until Proven Innocent (Has been signed into law by the Governor.)
    SB 880 – Expands “Assault Weapons” Ban to Include “Bullet Button” Semi-Auto Rifles, Pistols: Part of bill package that would ban 70 percent of all firearms in CA (Has been signed into law by the Governor.)
    SB 1446 – Ban on ALL Magazines that were Designed to Hold More than 10 Rounds, even those already legal under CA law (Has been signed into law by the Governor) - Would create a precedent for ban on owning property.
    SB 1235 (de Leon) --Restrictions on ammunition purchases, creates a DOJ database of ammunition owners. (Has been signed into law by the Governor.) Would create a precedent for registration of ammunition and, by banning shipping of ammunition direct to customer's door, would be an unconstitutional restriction on commerce (violation of Commerce Clause).
    Proposition 63 -- Similar to SB 1235, but even worse.

    Donate today and preserve our rights for future generations.


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    You are only giving one side of a very weak argument.

    What you are not telling is that Scalia clearly points out in Heller that the States have the power and right to regulate all public carry outside of the home.

    And it also looks like Gorsuch is going to be a swing voter.

    And even so, even Scalia (RIP) himself would not overrule the 10th Amendment (States' Rights) for the 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    You are only giving one side of a very weak argument.

    What you are not telling is that Scalia clearly points out in Heller that the States have the power and right to regulate all public carry outside of the home.

    And it also looks like Gorsuch is going to be a swing voter.

    And even so, even Scalia (RIP) himself would not overrule the 10th Amendment (States' Rights) for the 2nd.
    The usual BS that he can never back up when asked for direct Scalia quotes. Since I dare to ask to back up his opinion, I landed on his ignore list. What a loser!

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