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    National Firearms Reciprocity Bill JUST Introduced

    National Firearms Reciprocity Bill JUST Introduced -- Urge Your Congressman to Cosponsor.
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    Yesterday, Congressman Richard Hudson (R-NC) introduced legislation to grant national reciprocity for Americans who can carry concealed firearms in their home states.
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    After years of discussion and negotiation, Rep. Hudson's new bill, H.R. 38, unifies the major components of the Second Amendment community and has the strong support of Gun Owners of America.
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    The Hudson bill would ensure that victims of crime, like Pennsylvania concealed carry holder Shaneen Allen, do not face decades of imprisonment merely because they took an erroneous turn into another state.
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    It would cut through the labyrinth in which 50 different sets of rules create an incomprehensible jumble which even lawyers cannot fully understand.
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    We are constantly hearing from law-abiding Americans who want to drive from Florida to northern New England -- and are confronted by up to 15 different sets of state laws.
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    You can cross a state line in an instant -- frequently without warning. And not being able to distinguish between the laws of New Hampshire, New Jersey, and New York may mean the difference between lawful conduct and a twenty-year prison sentence.
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    Which brings us to the final point: The Hudson reciprocity bill would make America safe again -- by allowing Americans to exercise their God-given right to protect themselves, their families, and their communities.
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    There are countless examples of people who have used their firearms in self-defense when they were away from home. Make no mistake about it, this bill will save many lives.
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    ACTION: Urge your U.S. Rep. to cosponsor the Hudson reciprocity bill.
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    Sincerely,
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    Erich Pratt
    Executive Director
    Gun Owners of America
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    My Thoughts:
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    As long as no oneís personal info is entered into any data base in Washington, Iím all for this.
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    The only easy day was yesterday
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    Already running here: USA Carry - Nationwide Reciprocity - Page 122 - Post #1216. I suggest you start reading that thread to keep up with real news and corresponding discussions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    My Thoughts:
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    As long as no one’s personal info is entered into any data base in Washington, I’m all for this.
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    That's only going to happen in the administration after Trump, when this national reciprocity law gets amended with more gun control. It does already have that un-Constitutional language in there that would allow it to happen.

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    3 Predictions starting in 2017:

    National Reciprocity will be passed.
    President Trump (a C/C permit holder himself) will sign it into law.
    The people on this forum that have poo-pooed it will take advantage and carry nationwide, even thought they claimed to be against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    3 Predictions starting in 2017:

    National Reciprocity will be passed.
    President Trump (a C/C permit holder himself) will sign it into law.
    The people on this forum that have poo-pooed it will take advantage and carry nationwide, even thought they claimed to be against it.
    You are missing a few steps, such as states, like California, challenging its constitutionality and the next Democrat President coming in after Trump's 4 years in office adding stringent gun control legislation. By using the Commerce Clause, this bill essentially nullifies the 2nd Amendment. I understand that you are all for that.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    3 Predictions starting in 2017:

    National Reciprocity will be passed.
    President Trump (a C/C permit holder himself) will sign it into law.
    The people on this forum that have poo-pooed it will take advantage and carry nationwide, even thought they claimed to be against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    The people on this forum that have poo-pooed it will take advantage and carry nationwide, even thought they claimed to be against it.
    and violate the still standing Gun Free School Zone Act Federal law every time they travel within 1000' of a school with their out-of-state permit or no permit at all?
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    You are missing a few steps, such as states, like California, challenging its constitutionality and the next Democrat President coming in after Trump's 4 years in office adding stringent gun control legislation. By using the Commerce Clause, this bill essentially nullifies the 2nd Amendment. I understand that you are all for that.
    National Reciprocity Act not needed for Liberal Progressives to make stringent anti-gun laws. Just requires people to fall asleep again. National Reciprocity Act does not override state laws, you have to know the laws in the states you carry in. And there is no permit issued by the Feds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    National Reciprocity Act not needed for Liberal Progressives to make stringent anti-gun laws. Just requires people to fall asleep again. National Reciprocity Act does not override state laws, you have to know the laws in the states you carry in. And there is no permit issued by the Feds.
    Yes, it does override state laws, otherwise there would be no need to pass it. If it was already legal for you to carry in New York, then why would there be a need for a Federal reciprocity law? You are showing your ignorance in a glaring way, as usual. And if the conservatives can use the Interstate Commerce Clause to override state law and make it legal to carry in New York which would be illegal to do under state law, the liberals can also use the Interstate Commerce Clause to make it a requirement that you register your firearm with the government in order to legally carry it, just like New York requires now.

    And that is one sticking point that the half-assed National Reciprocity Bill does not address - in order to possess a handgun in New York, it must be registered with the New York state government. So if National Reciprocity passes, then go ahead an carry your gun in New York. They will arrest you anyway for possessing a handgun that is not registered with the New York state government - because there will be no Federal law that nullifies their registration requirement - only the permit requirement.

    Of course I don't expect you to even evaluate any of these statements in any sort of intelligent manner....
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    National Reciprocity Act not needed for Liberal Progressives to make stringent anti-gun laws. Just requires people to fall asleep again. National Reciprocity Act does not override state laws, you have to know the laws in the states you carry in. And there is no permit issued by the Feds.
    There is no need for liberals to write stringent anti-gun laws when the Republicans provide the template for them. Remember the SSI disability "gun grab" that was just enacted by executive order? Congress tends to give more and more powers to the Executive branch as 50% of the country always likes the Imperial Presidency. At the same time Congress, is constantly un-Constitutionally increasing the power of the federal government, as everyone wants to use the government as an "instrument of good".

    The federal government does not have to issue carry permits in order to regulate them. By using an un-Constitutional interpretation of the Commerce Clause, every firearm and every person carrying a firearm that crosses state lines can be regulated. The current gun laws already serve as precedent.

    As for your statement about the "National Reciprocity Act does not override state laws". I think you completely misunderstand what the National Reciprocity Act is designed for. It is designed exactly to override state laws, specifically reciprocity state laws. Again, it uses an un-Constitutional interpretation of the Commerce Clause to do that. Nothing prevents the federal government to extend this to other aspects of carrying a firearm or issuing a carry permit. Realize that the Gun-Free School Zones Act already regulates carrying a firearm at the federal level.

    The National Reciprocity Act already requires state carry permits to have a photo. What if it would require to have a chip on it with biometrics stored in a state database that is synchronized with a federal database?

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