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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    America did not for the last 8 years....
    I understand your sentiment, but the other half of the country thinks differently. They think that President Obama did put Americans first and foremost by not engaging in yet another useless war in the Middle East and by pushing various political agendas. Remember, for them, climate change is the biggest threat to our nation.

    As I said, there is nothing wrong with putting Americans first, until the actions under that slogan do more harm than good for the nation. That's exactly what happened under President Obama. That's also likely to happen under President Trump.

    Democrats and Republicans are alike, both want to use the government as an "instrument of good". Amassing more and more power at the government to force they way on the rest of the population. Once the pendulum swings the other way, the outcry again will be great. Leaders, of course, require followers. Keep following your leaders like lemmings.

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    Meanwhile, from ABC News | US Judge Grants Stay on Deportations Under Trump Immigration Order, But Overall Ban Remains:

    A federal court in Brooklyn tonight granted an emergency stay on President Trump's executive order that bans immigration from seven predominantly Muslim countries for two Iraqi men who had valid visas to enter the United States but were detained today when they arrived in New York.
    Also, from The Telegraph | British passport holders in US entry battle as Donald Trump bans travellers from seven Muslim countries and court rules those who arrived with visas can stay:

    British citizens travelling to America on UK passports will be blocked from entering if they have dual-citizenship with countries targeted in Donald Trump's refugees banned.

    The US State Department said that Britons with dual nationality with the countries Syria, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen will be stopped at the American border for the next 90 days.

    The revelation, which broke late on Saturday night, sent Downing Street scrambling for a response and has triggered uproar from MPs.
    Politicians said tens of thousands of Britons could be caught up in the border chaos as Mr Trump's new immigration rules impact on holidays and business trips.

    It was unclear last night whether Theresa May was aware the rules change was going to affect Britons despite spending hours meeting Mr Trump and his top staff in the White House on Friday.
    There is a right way to do this, but President Trump apparently chose the stupid way. Instead of simply delaying issuing new visas and putting all relevant existing visas under review, the executive order essentially cancels existing visas if a person is abroad or chooses to go abroad. The current executive order could block 500,000 legal US residents from returning to the US.

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    Well DJ Trump is in a hurry and the wheels of democrazy (no pun intended) grind very slowly, especially with leadership like Schumer and Ryan in charge.

    Plus politically speaking if/when Trump imposes the ban, and a Fed judge then blocks it, Trump is still the hero, and the judge is the goat.

    That's how politics works.

    Trump IS doing it the right way.

    And the judge is doing his job also.

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    FYI: For those who really don't get it. Trump executive order impacts immigrants that already have their visa, including those on dual-intent (e.g., H-1B work visas) and immigrant visas (Green Cards). It also applies to immigrants that have applied for US citizenship. Ironically, it only impacts those that are on foreign travel and want to come back to the US.

    It separates families, keeps people from living in their existing home in the US, keeps people from working for their existing employer in the US, keeps business visitors from visiting the US, etc. All of whom already have their visas and contribute to this nation. This is pretty much the nightmare for legal immigrants that the Democrats warned about and that Republicans said won't happen.

    By conflating the issue of refugee, non-immigrant and immigrant visas and the already issued visas vs. visas currently being processed. Trump's executive order is nothing more than an excellent funding drive for the ALCU and a preparation for the Democrats for 2018.

    Also, there is this: NPR | Trump's Immigration Freeze Omits Those Linked To Deadly Attacks In U.S. In other words, immigrants from nations that already committed terrorist attacks in the US are not included in this ban. Trump clearly has no clue.

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    DHS Vows to Enforce Donald Trumpís Executive Order

    The Department of Homeland Security plans to enforce President Donald Trumpís executive order to dramatically reduce immigration from high threat countries in the Middle East.


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    Soros Funding Airport Protests




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    For some reason, the full text of the executive order isn't posted yet on the whitehouse.gov Web site, or I just can't find it. So, thanks to that, one has to look at the dreadful NY Times to read the full text: NY Times | Full Executive Order Text: Trumpís Action Limiting Refugees Into the U.S. It contains a number of good actions, including reinstating the entry/exit system.

    However, the way this executive order is implemented is poorly. May be that's what Trump wants? Scare the heck out of everyone! Who knows? All he achieves though is to unite his opposition behind a common goal, something that you actually don't want to do after you have crushed them in the last election.

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    Trump is simply doing what he said he would do prior to the election. So no one should be surprised when he actually delivers on a promise.

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    Moments ago, President Donald J. Trump issued this statement regarding his Executive Order concerning extreme vetting.
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    The hysteria over Trumps EO is all hype. Here are some facts...The 7 countries Obama banned in 2011, are the SAME countries Trump has banned 2 days ago.
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    The Dear Leader has spoken and lied to the American People. His followers don't care, his opponents have no clue either. Past immigration restrictions did not include current Lawful Permanent Residents (LPRs, or Green Card Holders). They also did not include people that already have been issued a visa. Past immigration restrictions only focused on delaying issuing new visas until proper vetting procedures were in place.

    Meanwhile, immigrants from nations that actually committed terrorist acts on US soil, such as from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Russia, Palestine, and Egypt are still able to enter the country. Exactly 0 people from the currently banned countries have committed terrorist acts on US soil. Yeah, we have some real extreme vetting going in here. This is political theater at its best, designed for Trump's followers to feel happy. Nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    Moments ago, President Donald J. Trump issued this statement regarding his Executive Order concerning extreme vetting.
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    The hysteria over Trumps EO is all hype. Here are some facts...The 7 countries Obama banned in 2011, are the SAME countries Trump has banned 2 days ago.

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