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    Just 14 years ago, Democrats supported cutting off visas from dangerous countries

    Just 14 years ago, Democrats supported cutting off visas from dangerous countries
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    By: Daniel Horowitz
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    Editor's note, 1/29/17: Following President Trump's executive order on immigration, Conservative Review is featuring this September piece again.
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    When it comes to immigration and national security (and every other policy, for that matter), even many conservative Republicans can’t hold the ground plowed by liberal Democrats just 15 years ago.
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    Only a handful of Republicans are calling for a shutoff or cooldown of immigration and visas from the Middle East. Trump has made it a staple of his campaign and Sen. Cruz, R-Texas (A, 97%) has for a halt to the refugee program. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky. (A, 92%) introduced a bill cutting off visas from countries overrun by terrorists. Yet, outside of a few House members, nobody else wants to pass even a standalone bill enacting this common sense imperative, let alone use the current budget bill to force the issue. All Republican leaders want to discuss is throwing more money at a problem rooted in willful blindness. Those bills will likely strengthen Muslim Brotherhood front groups responsible for training local law enforcement through block grant programs
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    And what about Democrats? They don’t even want to discuss the issues of terrorism and insecure borders altogether.
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    The pagan ideal of multiculturalism has crushed any modicum of common sense that remained among our leaders in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.
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    However, it wasn’t always that way. In 2002, Congress passed the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act, which addressed many of the insecurities in our visa tracking system. The bill passed the House and Senate unanimously. The bill was originally sponsored by a group of bipartisan senators, including Ted Kennedy and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. (F, 0%):
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    SEC. 306. RESTRICTION ON ISSUANCE OF VISAS TO NONIMMIGRANTS FROM COUNTRIES THAT ARE STATE SPONSORS OF INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM.
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    (a) IN GENERAL- No nonimmigrant visa under section 101(a)(15) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C.1101(a)(15)) shall be issued to any alien from a country that is a state sponsor of international terrorism unless the Secretary of State determines, in consultation with the Attorney General and the heads of other appropriate United States agencies, that such alien does not pose a threat to the safety or national security of the United States. In making a determination under this subsection, the Secretary of State shall apply standards developed by the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Attorney General and the heads of other appropriate United States agencies, that are applicable to the nationals of such states.
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    The bill also established a program to monitor foreign students in the U.S. As part of that program, the Bush administration created the National Security Entry-Exit Registration System (NSEERS), which required visa recipients from countries that represent a security risk to register with an ICE office and report regularly about their plans. Unfortunately, Obama’s DHS abolished the program in May 2011. Now, there are twice as many foreign students in the United States, including well over 150,000 from the very countries originally monitored by the Bush administration program.
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    Just another day at DHS: 858 criminal aliens from ‘special interest countries’ wrongly granted citizenship
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    Ultimately, the 2002 bill had a lot of loopholes, which voided out its benefits in the long run and allowed Obama to erase what was left of the bill. But the fact that Democrats were even willing to sign onto a piece of legislation advertised as cutting off visas from some Middle Eastern countries demonstrates just how far their party has moved in almost 15 years. Sadly, Republicans have moved on with them.
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    Less than a generation later, after admitting nearly two million immigrants from the Middle East and hundreds of thousands more on non-immigrant visas, wouldn’t you expect an even greater sense of urgency from our political class? Wouldn’t our leaders be especially concerned about this influx of immigrants given how the jihadist threat has evolved from organized command-and-control attacks to individual jihadists carrying out their own attacks?
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    The fact that Congress passed that type of legislation in 2002 is just one more indication of how far our political class has regressed in their commitment to America’s security over the past 15 years. The pagan ideal of multiculturalism has crushed any modicum of common sense that remained among our leaders in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.
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    See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/c....iwU4vm4M.dpuf
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    My Thoughts:
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    Funny how the left wing liberal democrats forget about this little fact, now that President Trump want's to do something to ensure our countries safety.
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    This is nothing new. There has been a law on the books since 1952 that allows the president to restrict travel to America.

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    I like FDR's approach even better -- detainment camps.

    We would build them free mosques there too.

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    FYI: For those who really don't get it. Trump executive order impacts immigrants that already have their visa, including those on dual-intent (e.g., H-1B work visas) and immigrant visas (Green Cards). It also applies to immigrants that have applied for US citizenship. Ironically, it only impacts those that are on foreign travel and want to come back to the US.

    It separates families, keeps people from living in their existing home in the US, keeps people from working for their existing employer in the US, keeps business visitors from visiting the US, etc. All of whom already have their visas and contribute to this nation. This is pretty much the nightmare for legal immigrants that the Democrats warned about and that Republicans said won't happen.

    By conflating the issue of refugee, non-immigrant and immigrant visas and the already issued visas vs. visas currently being processed. Trump's executive order is nothing more than an excellent funding drive for the ALCU and a preparation for the Democrats for 2018.

    Also, there is this: NPR | Trump's Immigration Freeze Omits Those Linked To Deadly Attacks In U.S. In other words, immigrants from nations that already committed terrorist attacks in the US are not included in this ban. Trump clearly has no clue.

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    Jimmy Carter used it and so did Barrack Obama. So it is nothing new. The law has been in effect since 1952.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    Jimmy Carter used it and so did Barrack Obama. So it is nothing new. The law has been in effect since 1952.
    Uhm, no, but don't let that keep you from believing that. My post #4 provides the explanation for why you are wrong.

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    Nothing to see there. Trump is the President and can invoke what ever law he wants. You don't like it? You and your Liberal Progressive Circus Clowns can take it to the SCOTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR9 View Post
    Nothing to see there. Trump is the President and can invoke what ever law he wants. You don't like it? You and your Liberal Progressive Circus Clowns can take it to the SCOTUS.
    LOL. The Imperial Presidency continues. Now it is just with Trump and not with Obama. All Hail The King. LOL.

    You might want to look in the mirror to find that circus clown you speak of. It is always funny to see you call people liberal progressives when you run out of arguments or get called out on the nonsense you post.

    By the time the challenges of this EO would make it to SCOTUS, the immigration restrictions will likely be over. A few of them are already over, as the Trump administration has realized some of its mistakes.

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