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    U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible
    By Diana Washington Valdez / El Paso Times
    Posted: 01/13/2009 03:49:34 PM MST



    Related story: 2,000 fresh troops sent to Juarez as violence continues

    EL PASO - Mexico is one of two countries that "bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse," according to a report by the U.S. Joint Forces Command on worldwide security threats.

    The command's "Joint Operating Environment (JOE 2008)" report, which contains projections of global threats and potential next wars, puts Pakistan on the same level as Mexico. "In terms of worse-case scenarios for the Joint Force and indeed the world, two large and important states bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse: Pakistan and Mexico.
    Could Mexico collapse?
    Do you think it is possible that the Mexican government could collapse in 2009?
    Yes, the drug lords are taking over.
    No, the government is still strong and will control the violence.
    I'm not sure, it could still go either way.

    "The Mexican possibility may seem less likely, but the government, its politicians, police and judicial infrastructure are all under sustained assault and press by criminal gangs and drug cartels. How that internal conflict turns out over the next several years will have a major impact on the stability of the Mexican state. Any descent by Mexico into chaos would demand an American response based on the serious implications for homeland security alone."

    The U.S. Joint Forces Command, based in Norfolk, Va., is one of the Defense Departments combat commands that includes members of the different military service branches, active and reserves, as well as civilian and contract employees. One of its key roles is to help transform the U.S. military's capabilities.

    In the foreword, Marine Gen. J.N. Mattis, the USJFC commander, said "Predictions about the future are always risky ... Regardless, if we do not try to forecast the future, there is no doubt that we will be caught off guard as we strive to protect this experiment in democracy that we call America."

    The report is one in a series focusing on Mexico's internal security problems, mostly stemming from drug violence and drug corruption. In recent weeks, the Department of Homeland Security and former U.S. drug czar Barry McCaffrey issued similar alerts about Mexico.

    Despite such reports, El Pasoan Veronica Callaghan, a border business leader, said she keeps running into people in the region who "are in denial about what is happening in Mexico."

    Last week, Mexican President Felipe Calderon instructed his embassy and consular officials to promote a positive image of Mexico.

    The U.S. military report, which also analyzed economic situations in other countries, also noted that China has increased its influence in places where oil fields are present.

    More stories on the violence in Mexico

    Diana Washington Valdez may be reached at [email protected]; 546-6140.
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    2,000 fresh troops sent to Juárez as violence continues
    By Daniel Borunda / El Paso Times
    Posted: 01/13/2009 11:17:46 PM MST



    The Mexican army has sent an estimated 2,000 troops to Juárez as part of a rotation even as the death toll surpassed 35 so far this year.

    Two men were killed Tuesday evening, shot multiple times in separate attacks in which nearly 70 rounds were fired.

    About 5 p.m., Hector Ramiro Guardado Pereira, 34, was slain in colonia Infonavit Tecnologico, said Chihuahua state police. Investigators counted 40 casings of three calibers.

    About 10 minutes later, Agapito Aguirre Leyva, 36, was shot in the 1500 block of Acuario, where 29 casings of three calibers were found, police said.

    Tuesday morning, Guillermo Pizarro Marceleño, 35, died at a hospital after being shot inside El Trebol restaurant on Avenida 16 de Septiembre, police said.

    Three unidentified men were killed Monday.

    In one case, a man, who had a gag on his mouth and an electrical cord tied to a wrist and who might have been stabbed, shot and run over by a vehicle, was found at about 9:30 p.m. on Viaducto Diaz Ordaz road west of downtown, police said.

    The other two slayings were a man with a plastic bag taped over his head found in a vacant lot in the Parajes del Sur area and a blindfolded man with several stab wounds to his torso found in a ditch in colonia Insurgentes, police said.

    Soldiers who arrived in Juárez on Monday are part of a regular rotation of troops sent to different parts of Mexico, the Norte newspaper reported. Last year, more 1,600 people were slain in Juárez.

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    Army arrests 3 suspects

    # Troops of the Mexican Army's 35th Infantry Battalion on Saturday arrested three men with weapons and paramilitary gear in the town of Villa Ahumada, about 70 miles south of Juárez, military officials said.

    # Mario Rivera Rivera, Jorge Mendoza Zubiate and Rogelio Lopez Castañeda were allegedly in possession of six rifles, four handguns, two bulletproof vests, two black helmets and military-style clothing in desert camouflage and black.

    # Soldiers also seized two vehicles and 36 pounds of marijuana.
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    EL PASO -- Mexico is one of two countries that "bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse," according to a report by the U.S. Joint Forces Command on worldwide security threats.

    The command's "Joint Operating Environment (JOE 2008)" report, which contains projections of global threats and potential next wars, puts Pakistan on the same level as Mexico. "In terms of worse-case scenarios for the Joint Force and indeed the world, two large and important states bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse: Pakistan and Mexico.

    "The Mexican possibility may seem less likely, but the government, its politicians, police and judicial infrastructure are all under sustained assault and pressure by criminal gangs and drug cartels. How that internal conflict turns out over the next several years will have a major impact on the stability of the Mexican state. Any descent by Mexico into chaos would demand an American response based on the serious implications for homeland security alone."

    The Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Va., is a Defense Department combat command that includes different military service branches, active and reserves. One of its roles is to transform the military's capabilities.

    In the report's foreword, Marine Gen. J.N. Mattis, the Joint Forces commander, said "Predictions about the future are always risky. ... Regardless, if we do not
    Mexico's President Felipe Calderon announces a new economic stimulus package in Mexico City, Wednesday, Jan. 7, 2009. In an attempt to head off layoffs at companies vulnerable to the economic crisis, Calderon announced the government will invest 2 billion pesos into the country's troubled industries. (AP photo)
    try to forecast the future, there is no doubt that we will be caught off guard as we strive to protect this experiment in democracy that we call America."

    The report offers "a Polaroid snapshot," and conditions in Mexico and elsewhere are in a state of flux, said Brig. Gen. José Riojas, executive director of the National Center for Border Security and Immigration at the University of Texas at El Paso. "I'm not sure Mexico looks today like it did nine months ago," Riojas said.

    The report is the latest focusing on Mexico's security problems, which stem mostly from drug violence and corruption. Recently, the Department of Homeland Security and former U.S. drug czar Barry McCaffrey issued similar assessments.

    Despite such reports, El Pasoan Veronica Callaghan, a border business leader, said she keeps running into people who "are in denial about what is happening in Mexico."

    Last week, Mexican President Felipe Calderón Hinojosa instructed his embassy and consular officials to promote a positive image of Mexico. He's also vowed to continue the crackdown on drug cartels.

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    If you think there's a lot of Mexican citizens here now, just wait for the collapse in Mexico and see how much worse it becomes. Cheering for the failure of the Mexican government is not something that will help us in the short run...



    If we legalize drugs, the profit will be removed from the gangs perpetrating the violence. Anybody ready to make such a monumental change in our society?
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    Well, what else is new? Isn't Mexico's "sudden collapse" one way or another, the reason we have so much chaos on the southern border?
    Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

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    Remember there are reports of collapse of the U.S. also. Let's just hold on and see what really happens. Panic is not the answer and never is. These countries have been around for many, many years and will probably survive for a few more.

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    If this happens it will be a good excuse to have the military deployed in American cities. That will be the excuse they have been waiting for.
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    Lightbulb I have an idea!

    If the Mexican government collapses, maybe we should just annex the country. It seems like half of the population is here anyway, and we would be able to kill several birds with one stone:

    1) Eliminate the issue of illegal Mexican immigration and undocumented workers.

    2) Establish English as the language used in school. We will be back to English as the national language within a generation.

    3) We would put a serious dent in the illegal drug trade, as Mexico is the major gateway into the United States, and most of that is from within the country or points south. The Guatemalan and Belize border would be much easier to secure than the one stretching across Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California.

    Plus, some of the senoritas are muy bonita!


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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    If this happens it will be a good excuse to have the military deployed in American cities. That will be the excuse they have been waiting for.
    I don't know if that's necessarily the case, but it would be a completely legitimate reason to have the military stationed on the border (where they belong) rather than off in Crapistan somewhere trying to eliminate an infinite number of terrorists. We don't want to have tens of thousands of out-of-control refugees running across without anyone there to keep them from going nuts.
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