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  1. Purging deviants and molestors from the church and the especially the pulpit is a good thing. Children are too easily manipulated. All parents should take care in who they allow in their childern's lives. Wolves are everywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    anti-gay preacher is gay https://www.google.com/search?q=anti...utf-8&oe=utf-8 2,200,000 hits

    anti-gay preacher is child molester https://www.google.com/search?q=anti...utf-8&oe=utf-8 215,000 hits.

    Anti-gay politician is child molester http://https://www.google.com/search?q=Anti-gay+politician+is+child+molester&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 775,000 hits

    Anti-gay politician is gay https://www.google.com/search?q=Anti...utf-8&oe=utf-8 1,430,000 hits

    Easy peasy
    Or maybe you could link to a Wikipedia page that 1 million+ atheists have contributed to in order to substantiate your pulled-out-of-your-backside claim?

    Hits on a search engine proves nothing. It's still your made-up claim, and still your burden to substantiate. It certainly ain't my burden to pour through hits in a search engine to determine how many, if any, go to unique individual stories that does anything to substantiate your made-up claims.

    Just admit it - you made up the claim and cannot back it up in any substantive way. The admission only stands to improve your credibility among readers here, as this baseless accusatory and slanderous method of posting has already destroyed it amongst people who believe in fair play and honesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesStringer View Post
    Or maybe you could link to a Wikipedia page that 1 million+ atheists have contributed to in order to substantiate your pulled-out-of-your-backside claim?

    Hits on a search engine proves nothing. It's still your made-up claim, and still your burden to substantiate. It certainly ain't my burden to pour through hits in a search engine to determine how many, if any, go to unique individual stories that does anything to substantiate your made-up claims.

    Just admit it - you made up the claim and cannot back it up in any substantive way. The admission only stands to improve your credibility among readers here, as this baseless accusatory and slanderous method of posting has already destroyed it amongst people who believe in fair play and honesty.

    Blues
    You can lead a horse to water but ..........

    Nope, the facts are there, links to thousands and thousands links before you and you take the typical theist stance of,
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    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    I could list hundreds of documented cases of high profile preachers and politicians that are raging anti-LGBT, that turn out to be gay or even worse prey sexually on children. But I shant waste my time, as facts roll off believers like water off a duck. do your own research.
    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    You can lead a horse to water but ..........

    Nope, the facts are there, links to thousands and thousands links before you.........
    Above is the claim you made. I demanded substantiation lest it be seen for exactly what it was - pure, unadulterated sophistry. In order to substantiate that claim, you'd need to list "hundreds of documented cases" yourself, right here where you made the made-up claim. A list of hundreds of thousands of links is not a list of hundreds of documented cases.

    You made the claim, now back it up right here where you made it.

    After you're done with that, you should back up your claim that members here fall into the same category that you made about "hundreds of documented cases" of preachers and politicians being sexual deviants. It's you throwing around claims that you couldn't possibly know the truth of. It's your burden to substantiate, not anyone else's burden to "research" through Google.

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    No one has ever heard me say that I "hate" cops, because I don't. This is why I will never trust one again though: You just never know...

  6. Pearls to the swine...

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  7. I am a pastor. I harbor no hatred for others. I do not want people slaughtered regardless of what some like XD have claimed. I do not have skeletons in my closet that I must sooth by attacking individuals or groups of people like XD and others do who are discriminatory toward religion and religious people like me. In fact, I am quick to point out that a lot of evil things have been done in the name of religion but there has also been a lot of evil done by people who denounce religion: Castro, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.

    I do not condone child molestation nor any other kind of abuse. I do not turn a blind eye or deaf ear to predators inside or outside the church. Yes, there are documented cases of abuse within the church by clergy and others. There are also documented cases of it in the Boy Scouts and other civic groups. There are also documented cases of homosexuals sexually abusing children. I make no claim of hundreds or even thousands of documented cases of homosexuals sexually molesting children. I do not claim there are hundreds or thousands of documented cases of clergy sexually abusing children either. Any such claim of hundreds or thousands of documented cases made against any group are facetious and cannot be substantiated no matter what you may or may not find in a Google search or a Wikipedia article. Google documents nothing; only the authorities do. So, show me hundreds
    or thousands of documented court cases and lawsuits filed against religious people. Then just to show you are impartial, you should also report on the number of documented court cases and lawsuits against atheists, homosexuals, and others.

    Cases of child molestation and other abuses are magnets for attention especially when a religious person or group is accused. Attention to a few cases does not justify a broad-stroke condemnation regardless of what group, religious or otherwise, the claim is made against. That is why so many people attack the media for creating hysteria based on half-truths and even outright lies in some cases. The media then either does not retract the false claims or they hide the retraction on the back page, on an unreachable page on their website, or they edit the story online like the New York Times prefers to do and then claim the final rendition of the story is what they reported all along. XD is doing the same thing in his attack of religion and religious people. If XD is to be believed, I am either ignorant or mentally ill because I am a person of faith when in reality I am neither. I am a learned individual.

    XD's personal, broad-stroke attack against religion is rooted in some harm, whether real or perceived, that he has experienced at the hands of a religious person or persons. That is clear to see from both his tagline and his comments condemning all religion. (Ironically, he is accusing religious people of doing what, in fact, he has been doing all along.) That being said, I agree that there are a lot of people who have committed evil that use religion to commit those acts. However, there has been just as much evil committed by atheists. One has to look no further than totalitarian regimes, communists like Castro, Stalin, etc., socialists like Hitler, and so on. Even XD's quote of Steven Weinberg is telling. Weinberg is rabidly anti-religion but he is also rabidly anti-whoever disagrees with him on any subject and shows that through his open hostility to those who disagree with him. On the other hand though, I have been labeled by XD and others as phobic of all who disagree with me when the truth is I am hostile toward no one and refuse to attack others in a vain attempt to put the spotlight on others so that my own shortcomings are not exposed. I will openly discuss my shortcomings and my views. I also expect that from others who attack me because they disagree with me. Please stop attacking and instead sit down with me and let's talk. XD should stop attacking others and address his own shortcomings first. One cannot expect others to discuss their shortcomings with you as you hide behind yours while openly attacking others by claiming they are attacking you. It is time XD stopped using circular logic in a vain attempt to sooth his own repressed conscience.

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    I don't think we should publicly second-guess anyone's personal reasons for posting however they do. What's the point?

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    Preacher bill,

    My stance is that I recognize the threat religions pose to mankind's future.... and all one has to do to see that is pick up a news paper or watch the evening news.
    We get fondled, scanned, profiled just to get on an airplane solely because of people committing horrendous acts base solely on their religion.

    My tagline that gets so many panties in a bunch, because it hits the nail on the head.

    So quit your psycho babble, you don't have a clue about me my friend, but like a true preacher never pass up an opportunity to attack someone with different perspective.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reba View Post
    I don't think we should publicly second-guess anyone's personal reasons for posting however they do. What's the point?
    Reba, thank you, for you alone seem to actually behave as christians say christians should behave. You have to admit there is a lot of hate expressed by many of the faux christians here.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post

    It is all to common that the more someone rails against a group of people or their sexual preferences, the more likely they are covering for their own predator deviant sexual preferences.

    Jury finds pastor Kenneth Adkins guilty of 8 charges in child molestation case | Jacksonville News, Sports and Entertainment | jacksonville.com

    There are members here that are over the top in their hatred of the LGBT crowd, and I have always felt that they are compensating for the demons that dwell in their own mind. Now he gets to be someone's b!tch in prison.
    Ok it is wrong to say someone got what they deserved when they're murdered.

    What concerns me about this post is the "baiting" for we who have a strong distaste for the LGBT crowd.
    So let me give you what a typical liberal's response would be in defense of us conservatives so maybe it will register:

    "I feel that Republicans have to suffer as a result of anti-conservative hatred. I am personally offended because I identify as a Republican. It is not politically correct to say these hurtful things to us because we are different. I embrace the conservative nature that I was born with. I also identify as a Christian, and it breaks my heart that anyone would use slanderous remarks about me because I am part of a group they don't agree with. Why can't the LGBT community just love us too?"

    How's that? Perhaps the ACLU will take up our case next time we are lumped together as we have been here! No, probably not because we're not "different" enough.

    Good day,
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