Gun Law Update: Gun-Ban List Proposed
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  1. Gun Law Update: Gun-Ban List Proposed

    Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly.

    I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity, It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve
    made little mention of criminals.

    Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

    The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

    Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
    M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC, Hi-Point Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

    Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
    Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

    Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
    Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.

    Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
    A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

    Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

    A semiautomatic shotgun with (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

    Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

    Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:
    Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.” Note that Obama’s pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

    In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.”

    In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

    The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

    Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America

    Source: Tactical-Life.com
    Last edited by lukem; 02-03-2009 at 12:34 PM.

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    I can see our founding fathers rolling over in their graves.
    You can have my freedom as soon as I'm done with it!!!

  4. well as sad as this is we have to remember, almost 60% of america , which you would think would be some members of even this site was more concerned with watching history( ha! ha!) than protecting our rights and freedom. All we can hope for is to survive this storm and get someone in that will be man enough to overturn what the Idiot mafia is going to put into motion.

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    You don't sit idly by and hope you weather the storm, you must prepare for it, and in some cases even fight back. The idea that some elected putz thinks he can tell me what methods of defense I can deploy is out of his %&*@ing mind. Defense works just as well on thugs as it does misguided gov't employees. The storm is brewing, and I'm preparing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tex4oc View Post
    You don't sit idly by and hope you weather the storm, you must prepare for it, and in some cases even fight back. The idea that some elected putz thinks he can tell me what methods of defense I can deploy is out of his %&*@ing mind. Defense works just as well on thugs as it does misguided gov't employees. The storm is brewing, and I'm preparing.
    +1 with Tex.
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    search and seizeure doesnt sound good if you own one now that means they can take it if they want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old dude View Post
    search and seizeure doesnt sound good if you own one now that means they can take it if they want it.
    Well, if they are willing to trample on the Second, they can trample on the rest just as easily. They will simply select a few dozen people and prosecute them with a vengeance, long prison sentences and enormous fines that will leave the families completely destitute, in an effort to get everyone else to toe the mark.A few dozen 20+ year multi-hundred thousand dollar fines and most people will cave in.

    We are faced with people who want to change America and not for the better. We may have participated in the last free election this nation will ever see.
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    More links:

    ABC News - 25 Feb 2009
    The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.
    ABC News: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    ABC News - 22 April 2008
    U.S. Guns Arming Mexican Drug Gangs; Second Amendment to Blame?
    ABC News: U.S. Guns Arming Mexican Drug Gangs; Second Amendment to Blame?

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    I was looking for a video which was shown on CNN Lou Dobbs tonight but can't find it. Wayne LaPierre has already issued a call to arms, and says "We will not stand for this ."

    related article ---> KLFY TV 10 - Acadiana's Local News, Weather and Sports Leader | Semi-Automatic Rifle Ban Would Reduce Jobs, Not Crime
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    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
    So basically every semi auto pistol ever made....
    "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
    "Don't be so open minded that your brains fall out!" Father John Corapi.

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