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  1. I need help in voting. OPS?

    OPS,

    My neighbor is a "let's-pretend-we-are-republican" - just like you. He said that the republicans MUST win this election or else our country is TOAST.

    He said that we MUST reign in spending, STOP illegal wars in other countries, REDUCE taxes, and return to Constitutional policies.

    I told him that it doesn't matter if a republican or a democrat wins because they vote the same way on the house floor. But my neighbor says that it's still important for "us republicans" to "stick together and win", and is URGING me to vote for Mike Kelly Republican-Dist-3.


    DiNicola, U.S. Marine Veteran is a DEMOCRAT. I asked him about what he though of Kelly's votes, but DiNicola didn't have a rebuttal. I am presuming his positions are the same, thus why he won't speak up.


    Here are Mike Kelly's house floor votes:



    Kelly voted YES - H R 1731: to further empower the unconstitutional Department of Homeland Security, erode the privacy protections enshrined in the Constitution, and gradually move the United States closer to becoming a police state.

    Kelly voted YES - H R 3326: Authorize $3.29 billion in U.S. contributions to the World Bank’s International Development Association

    Kelly voted NO - S 139: Representative Justin Amash (R-Mich.) introduced an amendment to end NSA warrantless collection of communications data.

    Kelly voted YES - H R 1628: Rather than voting to repeal ObamaCare, the House voted instead to retain much of ObamaCare under the guise of "repeal and replace."

    Kelly voted YES - S 2943: The creation of the Orwellian “Global Engagement Center,” which was added to the NDAA without Congress being able to vote on it as a stand-alone bill, falling outside the scope of legitimate national defense.

    Kelly voted NO - H R 3: Appropriations Cuts, to cut $15 billion from previously approved, unspent spending.

    Kelly voted NO - H R 2: Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) introduced an amendment to prohibit federal interference in the interstate transportation of raw milk.

    Kelly voted NO - H R 2: Representative Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) introduced an amendment that would have phased out agricultural crop subsidies by fiscal year 2030.

    Kelly voted YES - H R 1238: this bill expands the "War on Terror" to include the fictitious and non-existent threat of "agro-terrorism" in the American homeland, thereby further interjecting the U.S. government into the agriculture sector.

    Kelly voted NO - H R 5293: Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) introduced an amendment to prohibit the use of funds in the bill to provide aid to Pakistan.

    Kelly voted NO - H R 5293: An amendment to prohibit the use of funds in the bill for the Syria Train and Equip Program.


    There is NOTHING conservative about Commie Kelly, so I am thinking about staying home. But my neighbor keeps hounding me to vote for him, even though Kelly OPPOSES the Constitution and keeps voting for socialistic policies that are raping my wallet. I gave my neighbor a copy of Kelly's voting record but my neighbor keeps saying he doesn't have time to read it.


    OPS, how do you like Kelly?

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    but... but.... but.... but... but.... but.... but... but.... but.... he's a republican....
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    We all know that there are RINO’s in the Republican Party and everyone that’s up for reelection should be researched as you did for Mike Kelly, I would guess that when he was running for the first time, he never voiced his left leaning opinions; basically he hood winked his constituents, just to get their votes.
    .
    You’re quite correct to investigate him and show his left leaning opinions.
    .
    Because of what the Democrats have said on what they are running on, is the main reason I feel they shouldn’t gain control.
    .
    Democrats have an agenda if the 'Big Blue Wave' is successful in the coming elections.
    .
    They want to raise your taxes
    Put illegal aliens ahead of US citizens
    Remove ICE
    Open borders
    Take away your guns
    Impeach Trump
    Impeach Kavanaugh
    Stop all congressional investigations into illegal activities done by the FBI, CIA & NSA that weaponized the intelligence community to request illegal FISA warrants and pushing the false Russian dossier.
    And these are just the one’s I could remember.
    .
    The unprecedented momentum that we’ve seen over the last 18 months for our country, need’s everyone out here to stay energized, to do for our country a better future, by never forgetting that it takes everyone to go out and make sure to vote November 6th for every Republican they feel will do what’s best for our country, that’s on your ballet, to ensure that we can all see a better future for our children and grandchildren and have a country that they can be proud of.
    .
    Trump’s accomplishments so far....
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    1. Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch & Judge Kavanaugh
    2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria
    3. He took us out of TPP
    4. Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)
    5. Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index 125.6
    6. Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a 10 year high
    7. Arranged from 7% to 24% Tariff on lumber from Canada
    8. Border wall well underway
    9. Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord
    10. Keystone pipeline approved
    11. NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%
    12. Allowing VA to terminate bad employees
    13. Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans
    14. More than 3,600,000 jobs created
    15. Median household income at a 7 year high
    16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever in its history
    17. China agreed to American import of beef
    18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks
    19. Rollback of A Regulation to boost coal mining
    20. MOAB for ISIS
    21. Travel ban reinstated
    22. Executive order for religious freedom
    23. Jump started NASA
    24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget
    25. Targeting of MS13 gangs
    26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants
    27. Signed 41 bills to date
    28. Created a commission on child trafficking
    29. Created a commission on voter fraud
    30. Created a commission for opioids addiction
    31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients
    32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007
    33. Historic Black College University initiative
    34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act
    35. Created an office for illegal immigrant crime victims
    36. Reversed Dodd-Frank
    37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning
    38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement
    39. End of DAPA program
    40. Stopped companies from moving out of America
    41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs
    42. Encouraged country to once again – ‘Buy American and hire American’
    43. Cutting regulations – 2 for every one created
    45. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first
    46. Apprentice program
    47. Highest manufacturing surge in 8 years
    48. $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota
    49. Denied FBI a new building
    50. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation
    51. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll
    52. Dept of Treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history)
    53. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt
    54. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence and Economic Growth
    55. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people’s lives than any President in the history of America
    56. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman
    57. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time frame, dated March 15, 2017, to trim the fat, restructure and improve efficiency of their branch. (Observe the push-back the leaks the lies as entrenched POWER refuses to go silently into that good night!)
    58. Last, refused his Presidential pay check. Donated it to Veterans issues
    59. Donating 1M of his own money to Hurricane victims (which no other president has done.
    60. Removed US from the Paris accord.
    61. Blacks and Hispanics employment at an all-time Historic level
    62. Women and youth employment highest in 65 years.
    63. Hundreds of businesses coming back to the US, which will gain hundreds of thousands of jobs.
    64. Housing starts at a 10 year high.
    65. More jobs available than workers to fill them.
    66. DOW hitting the highest of 4.3% in 12 years and predicted to hit 4.8% in the next quarter.
    67. 401k’s receiving record number of income.
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    And just think, he’s only getting started, he’s got 6 more years to continue doing what he can to keep America going in the right direction for everyone.
    The only easy day was yesterday
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    We all know that there are RINO’s in the Republican Party and everyone that’s up for reelection should be researched as you did for Mike Kelly, I would guess that when he was running for the first time, he never voiced his left leaning opinions; basically he hood winked his constituents, just to get their votes.
    .
    You’re quite correct to investigate him and show his left leaning opinions.
    .
    Because of what the Democrats have said on what they are running on, is the main reason I feel they shouldn’t gain control.
    .
    Democrats have an agenda if the 'Big Blue Wave' is successful in the coming elections.
    .
    They want to raise your taxes
    Put illegal aliens ahead of US citizens
    Remove ICE
    Open borders
    Take away your guns
    Impeach Trump
    Impeach Kavanaugh
    Stop all congressional investigations into illegal activities done by the FBI, CIA & NSA that weaponized the intelligence community to request illegal FISA warrants and pushing the false Russian dossier.
    And these are just the one’s I could remember.
    .
    The unprecedented momentum that we’ve seen over the last 18 months for our country, need’s everyone out here to stay energized, to do for our country a better future, by never forgetting that it takes everyone to go out and make sure to vote November 6th for every Republican they feel will do what’s best for our country, that’s on your ballet, to ensure that we can all see a better future for our children and grandchildren and have a country that they can be proud of.
    .
    Trump’s accomplishments so far....
    .
    BAD 1. Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch & Judge Kavanaugh
    BAD 2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria
    BAD 8. Border wall well underway
    BAD 21. Travel ban reinstated
    BAD 23. Jump started NASA
    LE is a CRIMINAL revenue organization 38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement
    BAD 40. Stopped companies from moving out of America
    BULLSH|T 55. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people’s lives than any President in the history of America
    BAD 56. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman
    YOU BETTER READ THE CONSTITUION And just think, he’s only getting started, he’s got 6 more years to continue doing what he can to keep America going in the right direction for everyone.

    You forgot to mention that pathetic $1.3 TRILLION omnibus which was the worse spending bill in the entire history of the United States.

    You and trump do NOT represent my conservative/freedom leanings.

    Oh, and Mike Kelly has been in office since 2011. That's 7 years of BULLSH|T which is exactly why this country is the way that it is. The repugs haven't learned yet and they STILL want him back in.

    Thanks, OPS, you helped decide...I'm staying home again on election day :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProudAmericanFirst View Post
    BAD 1. Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch & Judge Kavanaugh
    BAD 2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria
    BAD 8. Border wall well underway
    BAD 21. Travel ban reinstated
    BAD 23. Jump started NASA
    LE is a CRIMINAL revenue organization 38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement
    BAD 40. Stopped companies from moving out of America
    BULLSH|T 55. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people’s lives than any President in the history of America
    BAD 56. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman
    YOU BETTER READ THE CONSTITUION And just think, he’s only getting started, he’s got 6 more years to continue doing what he can to keep America going in the right direction for everyone.

    You forgot to mention that pathetic $1.3 TRILLION omnibus which was the worse spending bill in the entire history of the United States.

    You and trump do NOT represent my conservative/freedom leanings.

    Oh, and Mike Kelly has been in office since 2011. That's 7 years of BULLSH|T which is exactly why this country is the way that it is. The repugs haven't learned yet and they STILL want him back in.

    Thanks, OPS, you helped decide...I'm staying home again on election day :-)
    PAF: You are very vociferous when talking about the country's needs and government representation problems. I do agree with you on many of your comments, not so much on others. I think we all have the same goals in mind but different opinions on how to achieve those goals. Each individual has his/her own thoughts on what is right/wrong, regardless of our different problems. One can only say the other is wrong if they differ in opinion, and you know what they say about opinions. One is no better than the other. Right will win out if we are all of one accord and exercise our right to participate in the government process.

    I'm glad you thanked Ops for helping you decide on voting, however, if you don't vote, you are undermining your own stand for our rights. If you are sincere, not simply blustering, you should be overjoyed at having the opportunity to vote. Fortunately, voting isn't mandatory, but it is nice to have the option.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    PAF: You are very vociferous when talking about the country's needs and government representation problems. I do agree with you on many of your comments, not so much on others. I think we all have the same goals in mind but different opinions on how to achieve those goals. Each individual has his/her own thoughts on what is right/wrong, regardless of our different problems. One can only say the other is wrong if they differ in opinion, and you know what they say about opinions. One is no better than the other. Right will win out if we are all of one accord and exercise our right to participate in the government process.

    I'm glad you thanked Ops for helping you decide on voting, however, if you don't vote, you are undermining your own stand for our rights. If you are sincere, not simply blustering, you should be overjoyed at having the opportunity to vote. Fortunately, voting isn't mandatory, but it is nice to have the option.
    OG,

    My writing skills must be lacking, I have tried to be as clear as I possibly could:

    I oppose kavanaughs nomination and his ANTI 1st, 4th and 5th Amendment positions, HE helped Patriot Act along and other disastrous policies.

    I oppose a $25 +++ BILLION East/West Berlin I mean Mex/Am wall.

    I oppose a $1.3 TRILLION omnibus which my kids' kids' kids will have to pay well after I am gone.

    I oppose corporate/citizen welfare.

    I oppose Patriot Act.

    I oppose NSA invasion on all people without warrant.

    I oppose the MIC warfare state, invading/slaughtering other human beings countries, just to steal their oil, gas, land, resource, etc. Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, etc. etc.

    I oppose Stop and Frisk on our own soil, which nobody in that white house has ever come out against or explained to the dumb Americans their 10 Bill of Rights.

    The list goes on and on and on.


    OPS (closet left-winger) is the very reason I BOLTED out of the republican party, 6 years ago, when at RNC Tampa (I was there) they nominated a left-wing globalist who banned guns, raised taxes I mean fees 7 times, supported abortion and the author/implementer of Obamney-Care (flip flop mitt).

    So, who shall I vote for who represents ME?

    These are not opinions up for debate. They are the core of who I am; Free and Independent, which MOST people cannot handle.

    My RIGHT is NOT to vote for EVIL on either side of the isle. The only winning move is not to play, with hopes that others wake up too.

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by ProudAmericanFirst View Post
    OG,

    My writing skills must be lacking, I have tried to be as clear as I possibly could:

    I oppose kavanaughs nomination and his ANTI 1st, 4th and 5th Amendment positions, HE helped Patriot Act along and other disastrous policies.

    I oppose a $25 +++ BILLION East/West Berlin I mean Mex/Am wall.

    I oppose a $1.3 TRILLION omnibus which my kids' kids' kids will have to pay well after I am gone.

    I oppose corporate/citizen welfare.

    I oppose Patriot Act.

    I oppose NSA invasion on all people without warrant.

    I oppose the MIC warfare state, invading/slaughtering other human beings countries, just to steal their oil, gas, land, resource, etc. Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, etc. etc.

    I oppose Stop and Frisk on our own soil, which nobody in that white house has ever come out against or explained to the dumb Americans their 10 Bill of Rights.

    The list goes on and on and on.


    OPS (closet left-winger) is the very reason I BOLTED out of the republican party, 6 years ago, when at RNC Tampa (I was there) they nominated a left-wing globalist who banned guns, raised taxes I mean fees 7 times, supported abortion and the author/implementer of Obamney-Care (flip flop mitt).

    So, who shall I vote for who represents ME?

    These are not opinions up for debate. They are the core of who I am; Free and Independent, which MOST people cannot handle.

    My RIGHT is NOT to vote for EVIL on either side of the isle. The only winning move is not to play, with hopes that others wake up too.
    I guess the question for OG is, which of these do your support? Patriot Act? That was enacted under a republican, must be good for the people, right?
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    I guess the question for OG is, which of these do your support? Patriot Act? That was enacted under a republican, must be good for the people, right?
    XD: I am not a lemming and mindlessly agree with everyone on their particular take on any subject. What one person sees as bad, another may not, and for different reasons. Do I support the Patriot Act? Look at the cause of the Act being instituted. At the time a lot of people were for it, in part, but not necessarily all. Since that time the fallacy of the entire thing has been seen. There is a lot (most) of it I don't like but there is nothing that I, individually, can do about it. My only alternative is to vote for someone I think might be able to help correct it. Find the man and I will vote for him. But, in the meantime, I see no reason in bellowing like a bull moose in rut.

    Most of the items PAF disagrees with, I also disagree with, but not all. The idea of "stop and frisk" which Trump has proposed for Chicago, I whole heartedly agree with and I think a lot of the citizens there would also until they can get their crime problems down. As a general rule, no, I don't agree with it but those are dangerous times there. Go live there for a while and then tell me what you think of the idea. But the rest of the country needn't be imposed upon with it unless crime runs rampant throughout.

    I also oppose MIC which is completely out of control but, there again, what are you going to do about it? If you will remember, Dwight Eisenhower warned us about it when he left office. He was perceptive enough to see it but his successors allowed it to expand anyway.

    Do I completely agree with PAF? No. I daresay that neither I, nor anyone else, is in complete agreement with others on many subjects. That is what makes the world go around.

    I would like to recommend a book to you, and others, which I find explains my outlook on a lot of things, which will torque some off but that is how the ball bounces. The book is The Conservative's Handbook by Phil Valentine. It makes more sense than a lot of the drivel being spewed today. Try it, you might like it!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    Do I support the Patriot Act? Look at the cause of the Act being instituted. At the time a lot of people were for it, in part, but not necessarily all.

    The idea of "stop and frisk" which Trump has proposed for Chicago, I whole heartedly agree with and I think a lot of the citizens there would also until they can get their crime problems down. As a general rule, no, I don't agree with it but those are dangerous times there. Go live there for a while and then tell me what you think of the idea. But the rest of the country needn't be imposed upon with it unless crime runs rampant throughout.

    That Patriot Act....."The Repeal the 4th Amendment Act"....was in the making LOOOONG before 9/11. Bush W saw an opportunity and hoodwinked this entire nation to the point of hiring actors.
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    Jump to page 62, though the entire article is worth the read:
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    https://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/v...text=honors_et
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    But instead of treatment, the majority of $ went to criminalization. "Power" is the end game, not freedom and prosperity.
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    As far as Stop and Frisk...
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    What is IN MY pocket is NOBODY's business. I don't care if it's a stick of gum, a smoke, a knife, a gun, or a pocket full of change. Searching somebody randomly for possession of ANYTHING is immoral and wrong. If someone is ACCUSED of stealing or in possession of something that does not belong to them, then there are procedures for that.
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    Furthermore:
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    I am driving my car the "posted by bureaucrats" 45mph. I get a call that requires my presence sooner rather than later. I speed up safely to about 55mph.
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    I paid for MY car. I pay for auto insurance. I pay for the roads that I am driving on. I am liable for any accident, only I do NOT get into an accident. Yet BOZO fines me "extortion" money and would not have known if I went a little over or not had it not been for his radar pointing at me.
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    The point I am getting at here is "VICTIMLESS CRIMES". And they are NOT crimes, because another party did NOT suffer damages. And if they did suffer damages, then the fine didn't do a thing to prevent it and my insurance is there to protect me anyway. If I don't have insurance, there are courts to settle the dispute.
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    SO, repeal the 4th amendment over this stupid manufactured "war on drugs" like they tried to do during prohibition is a FARCE. It is NOBODY's business what I do in the privacy of my own home, in a bar, or out sunning on a beach. If I get drunk, I get drunk. My drunkenness is NOT contagious and it is my business if I want to be or not. If it becomes a problem that affects others around me, there are legitimate treatment options other than repeat fines and jail sentences to line the pockets of the criminal organizations.
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    The people of this country had better wake up now. Because it is getting WORSE, not better, and in time it will absolutely BE too late because freedom only comes around every few thousands years.

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    Patriot Act - Your 4th and 5th amendment rights can be made null&void at the desecration of some government agency or agent. Any American citizen can be declared (justified or not) an enemy combatant, and virtually cease to exist. Imprisoned without due process or any rights at all. No right to legal representation, no right to contact anyone, no right to a speedy trial, or to every go to trial ever, no right to even know what crimes you are being charged with, and of course you can also be tortured.

    That's the worst case, but more common and wide spread losses in that no American citizen has any expectation of privacy under the act. Then there is stop and frisk, warrant-less searches.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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