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    Caravan of Hondurans to cross Mexico and enter the United States

    Caravan of Hondurans to cross Mexico and enter the United States
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    Today, we have been notified of a new massive foot caravan of Hondurans who have indicated an intention to cross Mexico and enter the United States seeking political asylum. While I understand that their native Honduras is violent and unsafe and desperately broken with no justice nor economic hope, we, in the United States neither caused their calamity nor have the capacity to absorb all people fleeing the natural result of the Marxist Socialist governments the people of that nation chose instead of the example of freedom found only in the United States.
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    If Mexico allows these people to enter their nation the Hondurans are legally bound to apply for political asylum there in Mexico. They cannot subsequently travel to the United States seeking political asylum. There is no legitimate or legal basis for them to claim that only the United States can provide their need for political asylum.
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    Neither can they legally enter the United States. If Mexico allows them to enter Mexico it is Mexico, and not the United States, to whom these Hondurans must make their appeal.
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    Any who make their way to the U.S.-Mexico border must be turned away from the United States and every person who illegally crosses into the United States must be immediately deported. None of the Hondurans may apply for political asylum in the United States and the United States government must not entertain such requests from those crossing into the United States illegally.
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    The vast majority of Hondurans are leaving their country because of their living conditions which doesnít qualify for asylum, but we all know, all of them will say they are leaving their country because of violence and crime.
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    This should be a most valuable lesson to all Democrats in the United States! The people of Honduras, as we have seen demonstrated by people fleeing Socialist governments around the globe, are testifying with their feet the bankruptcy of the Socialism that the Democrats would replace our freedom with in the United States of America. The Honduranís determination to escape Socialism is a shout of warning to the deaf ears of the Democrat Party of the United States.
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    American patriots must stand strong and fight the anarchists (Democrats) that are in our country before they impose the governmental nightmare after the Nov 6th midterms on us that the Hondurans are so desperate to escape from in their own homeland!
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    The only easy day was yesterday
    Dedicated to my brother in law who died
    doing what he loved being a Navy SEAL

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  3. I have been reading up on this from various sources, but I keep coming to the same conclusion.
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    What I canít figure out is why Trump doesnít embrace the only logical, yet humane, solution, which would benefit both Hondurans AND the American people.
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    1600 people want to come to America, home of the make believe Free.
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    Ok, no problemo!
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    Mr. Trump, do not provide welfare or free handouts. Simple, responsible, apple pie, and Republican with a capital R.
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    Hondurans, apply for jobs. You know, the ones that Americans say they donít want because they are too lazy/picky. Those Honduran workers would be helping American business owners out who need those positions filled!
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    Hondurans would work these jobs under existing ďlawfulĒ visas (or not, haha), pay taxes when they go to the store while they are here, and then they can legally apply to become citizens, at which point they can pay the Feds their extortion money :)
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    Lack of jobs, you say? No problemo! With no welfare or free handouts, and no jobs available... see how Free Markets just solved that problem? Here, Iíll spell it out for you: thereís nothing to come here for!
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    But the way I read it, TRUMP, like the socialist that he really is, wants to politicize this because elections are around the corner. He also wants the American people to FOOT the tab, to keep a promise of building a wall, but came to find out that he canít seem to force Mexico into footing the bill.
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    It is very curious to me that a so-called ďRepublicanĒ, who is actually a socialist at heart, would not even MENTION Welfare Costs to his constituents who voted him in, or the American people, on Fox News or other channels, yet yammer on about spending +++$25 Billion that we Americans simply canít afford.
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    So, this Political Theater doesnít interest me in the slightest.
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    What interests me is how do we spread the word to the young generation coming up,,, what does Freedom really mean, How do we act responsibly while caring for others, How do we actually reduce our debt, How do we go about reclaiming our rights that we lost under Bush, Obama and now possibly Trump, and, How do we rebuild the Republican base back to the ideals that Republicans were once known for?

    But hey, those in the know really know that trump isnít even a republican. He simply ran on that ticket because democrats had it the last 8 years and America was ready for an R.
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    After thought: why anybody would even come to this cesspool is way beyond me. Perhaps after staying a while they will simply go back home. My question is, how in hell will I be able to split when I am good and ready, cost of exiting, assets, papers please, yadda yadda....

  4. It is their Natural Right as humans to seek safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lock View Post
    It is their Natural Right as humans to seek safety.

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    If Mexico allows them to enter Mexico it is Mexico, and not the United States, to whom these Hondurans must make their appeal. They have no natural right to enter the US, let them appeal to Mexico, since that's the first country that can keep them safe from what they are running from. But we all know, it's a economical reason their leaving.
    The only easy day was yesterday
    Dedicated to my brother in law who died
    doing what he loved being a Navy SEAL

  6. Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    If Mexico allows them to enter Mexico it is Mexico, and not the United States, to whom these Hondurans must make their appeal. They have no natural right to enter the US, let them appeal to Mexico, since that's the first country that can keep them safe from what they are running from. But we all know, it's a economical reason their leaving.
    Ah, typical republiCON response. It's someone else's problem till it affects me.

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by G-Lock View Post
    It is their Natural Right as humans to seek safety.

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    You may like Walter Block :-)
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    Careful though, he's a Libertarian/AnCap/Whateveryacallhim - like me :-)
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    He's a VERY brilliant man!

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    A mass of people of undetermined origin and purpose with unknown ultimate intentions and/or military affiliations are traveling from Central America in a northerly direction toward Mexico indicating a stated intention of crossing into the United States without legal immigration status. It is unknown who is supporting this force of people (perhaps an army concealed in a mass of civilians) with logistical aid and sustainment provisions.
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    What is known is that this mass of multiple thousands of people are traveling under the flag of Honduras while claiming instead to be fleeing Honduras (If a person is truly seeking to escape a nation they would not be expected to voluntarily travel under color of the nation they are seeking to flee).
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    The national security threat that this mass of people represent is unknown, but represents a significant potential for danger to the population of citizens in the United States if they are not stopped prior to entry into the United States. They must not be allowed entry into the United States of America at this time!
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    In the interest of United States national security I recommend that the president of the United States immediately order the U.S. Department of Defense to deploy military forces to the U.S. border with Mexico to secure the border from illegal entry by individuals without prior legal authorization to enter the United States.
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    Additionally, President Trump should immediately suspend all immigration into the United States with the exception of individuals that have already received authorization to enter the United States. This immigration suspension order should be effective until the Congress of the United States address the national security threats represented by groups or individuals seeking entry into the United States without proper background investigations and proper authorization to enter the United States.
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    The above are the only legal means that the president may use at this time to prevent this breach of national security brought upon our nation by Democrats.
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    Anyone who votes for any Democrat on November 6th is an accomplice in the illegal invasion attempts and threats to our nation by foreign forces of unknown hostile intent.
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    And have you noticed that the vast majority of them are male’s around 18 to 30 years old, where are all the women and children?
    The only easy day was yesterday
    Dedicated to my brother in law who died
    doing what he loved being a Navy SEAL

  9. Innocent until proven guilty ring a bell?
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    So far they have not harmed me or my family, or taken my job or my car, or banged me over the head with a rhubarb pie 😊
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    I do need some help digging drainage on the property though, the companies in my area donít have anything open for the next couple of months.


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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lock View Post
    Ah, typical republiCON response. It's someone else's problem till it affects me.

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    It's something your unable to understand, if they are sincere, then they need to apply to Mexico first, or can't you read? 1/3rd of the countries Hondurans already live in the US, what do you want to make it 100%.
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    These people won't be able to contribute to our country, other than being very low wage workers and what's that going to do for the US citizens that are already here trying to obtain a job here.
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    So in the long run it effects a whole lot of people and what about the hundreds millions of our tax dollars that will be spent on them over the years, sooner or later it has to stop, or do you want everyone throughout the world to be able to just walk across the border and come here and live off the tax payers.
    The only easy day was yesterday
    Dedicated to my brother in law who died
    doing what he loved being a Navy SEAL

  11. Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    It's something your unable to understand, if they are sincere, then they need to apply to Mexico first, or can't you read? 1/3rd of the countries Hondurans already live in the US, what do you want to make it 100%.
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    These people won't be able to contribute to our country, other than being very low wage workers and what's that going to do for the US citizens that are already here trying to obtain a job here.
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    So in the long run it effects a whole lot of people and what about the hundreds millions of our tax dollars that will be spent on them over the years, sooner or later it has to stop, or do you want everyone throughout the world to be able to just walk across the border and come here and live off the tax payers.
    No. I donít want anybody else soaking my check. The FED already rapes me on my taxes with walls and the MIC. In fact, even the repubs promote forced unionism these days and never utter a word about stopping welfare anymore. What the hell is going on with the R party? Whatís wrong with people actually working for a change? I canít even get Americans down at section 8 to give me a hand!
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    If you happen to run into one of the Hondurans where youíre at, could you please send one over my way?

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