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  1. At The Polling Locations - Please Take This Opportunity

    PLEASE take a few minutes to talk to folks and let them know about:
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    1. TSA Domestic Checkpoints across America, to include busses, trains and eventually cars (TSA website).
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    2. Biometric ID for ALL Americans.
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    3. 24/7 Facial Recognition Surveillance, which is being tested now in Orlando, equipment provided for free by Amazon.
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    Please urge them to contact their CONgresscritters and Senators to REJECT these dystopian efforts.
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    This is where active members of the community go and you don't need to go door to door. If each of us does this at our locations it will help spread the word across the country.
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    (202) 224-3121
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    Not voting? Already voted? Go after work if you have some time!

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    PAF: My answers.
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    #1.**:So what's the difference between that and DUI check points? Not a criminal not a problem.
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    #2.**: Will never happen, unless they volunteer for it.
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    #3 **: Tell me what's wrong with that, if you don't commit a crime, then you don't have to worry.
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    This is where active members of the community go and you don't need to go door to door. If each of us does this at our locations it will help spread the word across the country.
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    **: don't think this is a good idea to do at polling places, could be against the law, like you can't politic for a specific candidate at the polling station, or disrupt the voters.
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    **: Already voted, never seen this many voters here where I live in Virginia for the last 15 years, we had to wait in line for 45 min just to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    PAF: My answers.
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    #1.**:So what's the difference between that and DUI check points? Not a criminal not a problem.
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    #2.**: Will never happen, unless they volunteer for it.
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    #3 **: Tell me what's wrong with that, if you don't commit a crime, then you don't have to worry.
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    This is where active members of the community go and you don't need to go door to door. If each of us does this at our locations it will help spread the word across the country.
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    **: don't think this is a good idea to do at polling places, could be against the law, like you can't politic for a specific candidate at the polling station, or disrupt the voters.
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    **: Already voted, never seen this many voters here where I live in Virginia for the last 15 years, we had to wait in line for 45 min just to vote.
    Walked in, showed ID which that they ran thru the card reader. Handed ticket to get the 4 sheets of ballot ( 7 out of 8 sides ). Marked in black pen. Fed into machine. Done and got sticker. All in less time than you stood in line. 11 voting stations and all were full when we left. As for politicking, 75 feet from the actual polling location here in Florida but you cannot interfere with those wanting to enter. Poll worker stationed at 50 ft mark with sample ballots so that you can mark what you want while waiting in line if there is one.
    1. Actually is a problem. TSA pulled this stunt on Amtrak a couple years back. Made everyone get off the train. Searched people's luggage of those who were leaving the train at that stop even. All done at 0dark30 when people were supposed to be able to be sleeping. Amtrak police showed up and told them to get off the property as they had not announced that they would be doing it that night and TSA agents were doing some very unsafe acts on railroad property. TSA agents are the lowest of the low when it comes to authority to do anything on railroad property.
    2. Not going to happen unless you volunteer for it.
    3. No problem as long as they don't log all of your trips. Although as a driver who has to pull into weigh stations, they have already logged many of my trips by way of my truck tags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    PAF: My answers.
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    #1.**:So what's the difference between that and DUI check points? Not a criminal not a problem.
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    #2.**: Will never happen, unless they volunteer for it.
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    #3 **: Tell me what's wrong with that, if you don't commit a crime, then you don't have to worry.
    Sounds like a cowardly surrender monkey eager to turn in his freedoms and rights.
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    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    PAF: My answers.
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    #1.**:So what's the difference between that and DUI check points? Not a criminal not a problem. Uh huh, more control.
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    #2.**: Will never happen, unless they volunteer for it. Are you sure?
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    #3 **: Tell me what's wrong with that, if you don't commit a crime, then you don't have to worry. With the government, always worry!
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    This is where active members of the community go and you don't need to go door to door. If each of us does this at our locations it will help spread the word across the country.
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    **: don't think this is a good idea to do at polling places, could be against the law, like you can't politic for a specific candidate at the polling station, or disrupt the voters.
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    **: Already voted, never seen this many voters here where I live in Virginia for the last 15 years, we had to wait in line for 45 min just to vote.
    Ops: Stop and think about what you are saying here. First of all, this could/would be in addition to DUI checkpoints, just another bureaucratic obstacle which TAKES another freedom from us. It doesn't GIVE us anything, to include safety, but the government will claim it is all for our welfare. The biometric ID gives me considerable heartburn for several reasons. First, it could be the MARK OF THE BEAST from the Bible. I know a lot of people are not religious so the mark, in and of itself, will not necessarily bother them. But, for the Christian, receiving that mark guarantees you reservations in Hell and the warning is spelled out in the Bible. If it becomes mandatory and you refuse it, you are in deep kimchee. If you don't realize what it is and take it, you are still in deep kimchee. Best thing is to refuse any and all marks or forms if ID.

    The facial recognition programs are wrong for so many reasons, abuse being the first reason. Why should the government have the ability to find you any place in the world and, at any time? OK, you haven't committed a crime, but you may be suspected of being a member of a church, or some organization that is in disfavor with the government. There will be a picture of you on some record which can be fed into worldwide computers and locate you in very short order. Haven't you watched any movies lately that show just exactly what the government can and would do to have complete control of us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    Ops: Stop and think about what you are saying here. First of all, this could/would be in addition to DUI checkpoints, just another bureaucratic obstacle which TAKES another freedom from us. It doesn't GIVE us anything, to include safety, but the government will claim it is all for our welfare.
    The courts have ruled that "stop and frisk" needs to stop. But if you want to get on an airplane, it goes well beyond stop and frisk, to the point it approaches body cavity searches, including children. The TSA (government) wants to expand that to trains, buses, and combined with biometric ID and facial recognition, to subways, light rail, and city buses.

    Want to go see a major league or college ball game, concert, or even see Trump at a rally? Guess who is going to be searched.

    OBTW, Trump likes 'stop and frisk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    The biometric ID gives me considerable heartburn for several reasons. First, it could be the MARK OF THE BEAST from the Bible. I know a lot of people are not religious so the mark, in and of itself, will not necessarily bother them. But, for the Christian, receiving that mark guarantees you reservations in Hell and the warning is spelled out in the Bible. If it becomes mandatory and you refuse it, you are in deep kimchee. If you don't realize what it is and take it, you are still in deep kimchee. Best thing is to refuse any and all marks or forms if ID.
    See above, the perfect method to see who is utilizing any form of mass transit. Of course for those that drive, the license plate readers will fill in the gaps of who is moving, and where.
    There will be no kimchee if you refuse, you simply cease to exist. You won't be able to use any form of public transportation, you won't be able to buy anything as it will also be your banking ID. You will be left with black market options, as cash will be gone or useless, so the black market will be barter system, either goods or labor. Which will be necessary as your 'chip' will also be your employee ID allowing access to your workplace, and you paycheck will be sent to a bank, which you won't be able to access.

    OBTW, no mark of the beast, just the fact people continue to knuckle under to the people that don't give a tinkers damn about you at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    The facial recognition programs are wrong for so many reasons, abuse being the first reason. Why should the government have the ability to find you any place in the world and, at any time? OK, you haven't committed a crime, but you may be suspected of being a member of a church, or some organization that is in disfavor with the government. There will be a picture of you on some record which can be fed into worldwide computers and locate you in very short order. Haven't you watched any movies lately that show just exactly what the government can and would do to have complete control of us?
    We're pretty damn close. Think about you cell phone, if it's on, you location is known to a general area. Any number of apps on your phone, from your email to many apps we probably don't suspect are tracking you down to a few feet, 24/7/365. The technology is rather impressive. Someone can dial your number (to just text you) and regardless of virtually anywhere you are on the planet, the system finds you in seconds.

    Facial recognition is a proven technology, used in may cities in Europe, and else where for decades. Companies use them, casinos use them, and have been.

    And on this election day, while many, especially those that 'listen' to Trump are hyperventilating about people voting illegally. Really, that has no effect unless a race is decided by the number of votes you can count on one hand. The real threat are the people that count the votes, and we have a number of states that have ZERO paper trail. I voted on paper then fed it into a scanner. The paper is archived for 14 months, and can be recounted.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    The courts have ruled that "stop and frisk" needs to stop. But if you want to get on an airplane, it goes well beyond stop and frisk, to the point it approaches body cavity searches, including children. The TSA (government) wants to expand that to trains, buses, and combined with biometric ID and facial recognition, to subways, light rail, and city buses.

    Want to go see a major league or college ball game, concert, or even see Trump at a rally? Guess who is going to be searched.

    OBTW, Trump likes 'stop and frisk'

    See above, the perfect method to see who is utilizing any form of mass transit. Of course for those that drive, the license plate readers will fill in the gaps of who is moving, and where.
    There will be no kimchee if you refuse, you simply cease to exist. You won't be able to use any form of public transportation, you won't be able to buy anything as it will also be your banking ID. You will be left with black market options, as cash will be gone or useless, so the black market will be barter system, either goods or labor. Which will be necessary as your 'chip' will also be your employee ID allowing access to your workplace, and you paycheck will be sent to a bank, which you won't be able to access.

    OBTW, no mark of the beast, just the fact people continue to knuckle under to the people that don't give a tinkers damn about you at all.


    We're pretty damn close. Think about you cell phone, if it's on, you location is known to a general area. Any number of apps on your phone, from your email to many apps we probably don't suspect are tracking you down to a few feet, 24/7/365. The technology is rather impressive. Someone can dial your number (to just text you) and regardless of virtually anywhere you are on the planet, the system finds you in seconds.

    Facial recognition is a proven technology, used in may cities in Europe, and else where for decades. Companies use them, casinos use them, and have been.

    And on this election day, while many, especially those that 'listen' to Trump are hyperventilating about people voting illegally. Really, that has no effect unless a race is decided by the number of votes you can count on one hand. The real threat are the people that count the votes, and we have a number of states that have ZERO paper trail. I voted on paper then fed it into a scanner. The paper is archived for 14 months, and can be recounted.
    When my wife and I voted today we were first registered into an electronic device, given a receipt which was then traded for a ballot, which was, in turn, fed into a scanner after we marked our votes. No problem there and apparently performed a double check. As usual, some comments about the electronic device saying that it was made by one of George Soros' companies. I don't know that and frankly, I don't give a rat's butt, I'm glad the election is over. Just wonder what the next two years will bring?

  9. First time I voted in years. ALL libertarians who are all outstanding candidates, and 1 republican who I CM’d for.
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    We split up to different precincts between 2 counties and passed out the sheets in the OP... many conversations throughout the day. Admittedly, there were a few republicans who didn’t want to hear squat and kept on walking. Though, I think those were the war mongering neocons.
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    Many of the folks were confused, dumbfounded at first, until it was spelled out for them. And then the fireworks. They were fumed that there was no msm coverage of any of this, a few took their phones out to confirm what I shared, resulting in lots of head shaking. They were also appreciative of the phone number at the bottom.
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    An added bonus, I got more than a handful to change from voting repub to libertarian, since I printed those sheets out too, they shook my hand after leaving the poll. They wondered why trump never said a thing about these things in the news. That’s when I said he’s just another obama/bush and doesn’t give a flying crap about the BoR.
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    Some are interested in attending our meetings and took my info, I told them if they attend I’d give them a free cookie :-)
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    All in all, great weather and a good fun day, whether my candidates win or not :-)

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