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    ‘They’ve Awoken a Giant’: 20+ Virginia Counties Become 2A Sanctuaries Overnight

    ‘They’ve Awoken a Giant’: 20+ Virginia Counties Become 2A Sanctuaries Overnight

    Virginia gun owners have gathered by the hundreds at Board of Supervisors meetings in counties across the state to send a message to the newly elected Democratic legislature in Richmond.

    As of this writing, 23 counties and towns have declared themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries since Michael Bloomberg flipped the state legislature from red to blue earlier this month. Second Amendment sanctuaries exist in many states across the country, but no state has seen so many in such a short span of time.

    “It’s sending a message to Richmond saying we don’t want any more gun control out here,” Philip Van Cleave told GunsAmerica. Van Cleave is the President of the gun-rights group Virginia Citizens Defense League, which has been fighting for Second Amendment rights in Virginia since 1994, when they helped turned the state from may-issue to shall-issue.

    Van Cleave has been active in the gun rights movement in Virginia for over 20 years, and he says he’s never seen anything like this.

    “Nothing even touches the activity in Virginia right now. A lot of gun owners were sleeping, but now they’ve woke the sleeping giant. All these gun owners that have been sound asleep have suddenly woken up.”

    The numbers don’t lie. Of Virginia’s 133 counties and independent towns, 23 have already declared themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries, and another 53 are considering the measure.

    “There are more coming,” Van Cleave predicted. “That number’s going to jump quite a bit.”

    County Board of Supervisor meetings are literally overflowing with gun owners hoping to send a message to Richmond.

    One thousand people showed up at a Board of Supervisors meeting in Shenandoah County, for example, and 700 people attended a meeting in Washington County. The meetings in Amherst and Amelia counties were standing-room-only with crowds flooding the hallways and the front laws.

    On a larger scale, gun owners—when they show up—represent a massive voting block in state elections. Van Cleave pointed out that in a state of 8 million people, there are 2 million gun owners and 600,000 hold concealed carry permits.

    Van Cleave admitted that when a county declares itself a Second Amendment sanctuary, the gesture is mostly symbolic from a legal standpoint. While all county employees, including any police force, are bound by the resolution, sheriffs and county attorneys are independently elected in Virginia.

    But Van Cleave also pointed out that many sheriffs follow the county’s lead, and many others have independently vowed not to enforce new gun control.

    More importantly, the Second Amendment sanctuary push sends a clear message to the state legislature and gives gun owners a clear mission.

    “While there’s no real teeth in it, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have influence,” Van Cleave said. “It’s unifying gun owners. It’s giving them a mission and a message. And they’re sending it loud and clear.”

    Unity will be key to blocking the slate of anti-gun measures the legislature plans to adopt in the upcoming session. Van Cleave believes that if gun owners can exert enough pressure on Senate Democrats in purple districts, they can block some of the most extreme anti-gun policies.

    “[The Democrats] will know they’re in a fight. This isn’t going to be a cakewalk,” he said. “It’s one thing to be brave and vote along with gun control when you know that Republicans are going to kill it anyhow. Now they’re going to own it. If they pass gun control, they’re going to own it. They’ll be the target for all those angry gun owners that are waking up.”

    The Democrats hold a commanding 55-45 majority in the House of Delegates, but in the Senate their 21-19 majority is much smaller. If two Democrats fail to support any given bill, Republicans will be able to block it.

    For now, Van Cleave and his team are focusing on what they believe will be a massive Second Amendment rally and lobby day in Richmond on the third Monday in January. If the turnout at Board of Supervisors meetings is any indication, he has good reason to be optimistic.

    To gun owners in other states, Van Cleave’s message is clear: don’t get complacent.

    “Don’t think this isn’t coming to your state,” he warned. “They’re looking at Virginia as a test case. What they’re doing here, they’ll do in Kentucky, Texas, Florida, and North Carolina. We all have to stand up and fight. We can’t run to another state. This is a movement to disarm us.”

    Read More: https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/20-virginia-counties-2a-sanctuaries/?fbclid=IwAR1PWFtW-6Av5wwkx1KyGkAo8lFm-1goShh_7hAD6DR6gBhYskwiWFKx4rk

    My Thoughts:

    Yeah they better because they voted in a liberal government and soon will be paying for that dumb mistake. Socialist democrats are the most dangerous politicians in America.

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    Will The Revolution Start in Virginia?

    Revolutions start slowly… similar to trying to light a fire with wet wood… Enough heat must be applied till the wood catches fire, but….once MOLESTED…the common man comes alive with a ferocious anger and resolve…. and the Va general assembly has lit the fire. There are many bills in the assembly that will turn peaceful Virginian gun owners into fifth class felons. I am already seeing that resolve mount toward an eruption point in VA and the tyrannical new laws are not even on the books yet.

    Emails with links to other counties were received concerning counties in Virginia standing up to this insanity, by declaring the County a 2A Sanctuary County – 2nd Amendment Sanctuary. This has no legal authority, but sends a message that we will not go to prison for an Unconstitutional law.

    The County Supervisor meetings are sparsely attended.. but this was different… The meeting was to start at 7pm
    Arrived at 5:15 pm
    About 1/3 of the 100 chairs were taken (this is almost 2 hours early).
    6 pm -the room was full and the doors were shut — a couple of hundred people were waiting to talk to the supervisors on the side of the building
    6:30 pm -there was about 400 people in the parking lot
    7:00 pm -there were over 1000 people, large parking lot was full, meeting started and county supervisors took a recess as they could not believe how many people arrived and needed to see for themselves.
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    It was an ocean of people coming to show their support for Freedom.

    What will happen if these proposals become law ? Many who spoke at the meeting said that they would be “Carried out in a box, before they gave up their guns”. I have been to a few of these meetings… never, ever has talk like this been heard by these walls.
    Question is, the Globalist Banksters want a Civil war, but this is beginning to take shape as a Revolution… Are they willing to commit the ultimate political irony this time to create civil disorder and apply deadly force en masse against the general public for the sake of “public safety.” We will have to see.

    Practical rationality and concern for the health of The Republic has not been their strong suit in recent years.

    Will the Revolution start in Virginia? many at the meeting believe it will, but there are many other counties all over the country that are also getting ready.

    Here is the full text of the proposed law:
    SENATE BILL NO. 64
    Offered January 8, 2020
    Prefiled November 21, 2019
    A BILL to amend and reenact §18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia, relating to paramilitary activities; penalty.
    Bill Title: Paramilitary activities; penalty.
    Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 1-0)
    Status: (Introduced) 2019-11-21 – Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
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    Patron– Lucas
    ———-
    Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
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    Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:
    1. That §18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:
    §18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited; penalty.
    A person shall be is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he:
    1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or
    2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or
    3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.
    2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to §30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to §30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.
    See the full text yourself at this link.
    TYRANNY ALERT: Virginia to OUTLAW Krav Maga, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, kickboxing, Tai Chi, firearms instruction and self-defense training under proposed law SB64

    Read More: https://healthandmoneynews.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/will-the-revolution-start-in-virginia/?fbclid=IwAR1k4gHwzHa2bdnlsqdVWzAmGPN9_umFPOTa7lFO I8DDeCwcF_rEMne4cFk

    My thoughts:

    It would NOT be a revolution; it would be DEFENDING our legitimate government, our constitutional republic, from domestic enemies working from within to destroy it.

    All who SERVE WITHIN our governments are constitutionally required to take and keep the Oath which requires them to “support and defend” the US Constitution. State governmental officials are state constitutionally required to take an Oath to support and defend both the state’s Constitution and they US Constitution. What crimes do they commit when they break or do not take the constitutionally required Oath? Americans are required by the US Constitution to have, carry, and train with arms that can be used to defend life, property, cities, counties, states, and our nation. These people are the REPRESENTATIVES of the people, not the government. Our governments are the US Constitution plus each state’s Constitution, the people who serve within them, elected, hired, etc are put there to carry out those duties found in writing.

    Oaths – Federal law regulating oath of office by government officials – state and federal – is divided into four parts along with an executive order that further defines the law for purposes of enforcement.

    5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office the three branches of our government, the military, all law enforcement, the heads of the States, all federal employees are required to take before assuming office.

    5 U.S.C. 3333 requires the three branches of our government, the military, all law enforcement, the heads of the States, all federal employees sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office.

    18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath of office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office and; (2) confinement or a fine.

    5 U.S.C. 7311 explicitly makes it a federal criminal offense for anyone employed in the United States Government to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government”.

    The definition of “advocate” is further specified in Executive Order 10450 for the purposes of enforcement supplements 5 U.S.C. 7311. Executive Order 10450 provision specifies it is a violation of 5 U.S.C. 7311 for any person taking the oath of office to advocate “the alteration … of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means.”

    It is important to realize that our form of government is defined by the Constitution of the United States. That according to Executive Order10450 and 5 U.S. 7311 any act taken by government officials who have taken the oath of office prescribed by 5 U.S.C. 3331 which alters the form of government other than by amendment, is a criminal violation of the 5 U.S.C. 7311.

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    Virginia Bill To Make Firearms Training An ‘Illegal Paramilitary Activity’ And Felony

    Virginia legislators have drafted and filed a bill that is set to make firearms training an “illegal paramilitary activity” and felony, as the state continues to chip away at the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens.

    Virginia legislators have clearly lost their minds on this latest bill that was filed this month, and will be open to discussion come January 2020.

    This of course is in reference to Senate Bill Number 64, or SB64 as it may appear in print or spoken discussion.

    We’ll display the language used in the bill and get into dissecting how it may be perceived generally, or presented by the liberal media, versus how it can also be enacted in reality.

    LawEnforcementToday report: The first portion of the unconstitutional bill reads as follows:

    “A person is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he: 1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder”

    How it will be Perceived/Explained:
    The way that they drafted the bill, and the portions that will be either emphasized or broadly digested will be the portions related to people “knowing” that they’re preparing someone for some “civil disorder”.

    They might even say that this law can be used against Antifa, which it could, but will it?

    Talking heads will go on television, hyping up that this is a good measure that will criminalize people training for acts related to domestic terrorism; although why would we need a law for something there’s already a law for? That could be addressed already by Virginia law § 18.2-46.5.

    How it can be Enforced:
    The most dangerous words in this proposal are “knowing or having reason to know” and “in furtherance of”.

    The reason being that intent is no longer really required, leaving every gun range owners and employees susceptible to prosecution for simply doing business. It’s plain as day why this language is the way it is, because with these key words, only loose connections need to be established to criminalize gun owners and enthusiasts.

    Furthermore, civil disorder is also quite a broad term as well to be concerned about.

    The second and also third portion of this bills is as follows:

    “2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

    3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.”

    How it will be Perceived/Explained:
    Well now this will try to put you at rest from thinking that someone can legally start up some kind of training camp to prepare people to wreak havoc on your city, which with the way the law is written it can certainly be applied in that fashion.

    And that portion pertaining to marching, well that’s to stop anyone from making it look like they own your streets via a militaristic grip and toting their scary guns. Keep in mind, this is how it will be sold and broadly digested.

    How it can be Enforced:
    That last Section, 3, is the most unique part of the law. While Section 2 can be applied much like Section 1 can, that third portion has the ability to criminalize open-carry demonstrations and peaceful protests.

    As we saw last year in Washington, D.C., the “March for our Lives” demonstration which had a theme that was about banning guns, encountered some counter-protesters proudly displaying their second amendment rights and openly carrying.

    These few dozen individuals held what they called a “Patriot Picket” and that pesky third portion of the proposed bill can send someone to jail for having a firearm on their person whilst attending a march such as that.

    I’ve never quite understood the anti-gun movement. Guns seemed to be the only object that gets blamed for murder when they’re used for murder. No one tries to ban Hondas when someone strike a pedestrian with one.

    No one tries to ban Clorox when someone’s kid drinks it. Nor do people try to ban kitchen cutlery when someone is murdered with a knife, but for some reason guns are just so awful to some people.

    The people that hate them, but don’t stand to benefit from their ban or confiscation are only one thing: potential victims of crime. Don’t stand idly while these laws slide into your state.

    Read More: https://newspunch.com/virginia-bill-to-make-firearms-training-an-illegal-paramilitary-activity-and-felony/?fbclid=IwAR0mhPoDntD0-EzvuW2g0LO0yPmqfsx9aOqQ2Rk81RJZOX5MZTjyWggY9Pw

    My Thoughts:

    They’re coming after our guns from every direction. We all know this will be going to the Supreme Court!!!!!!

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    YES, VIRGINIA… THEY WANT TO SEIZE YOUR GUNS

    Got guns, Virginia? Your state government wants them.

    Virginia lawmakers are pre-filing bills that would clamp down on gun rights to the point of dispossessing law-abiding gun owners of their legally purchased modern sporting rifles and other commonly owned semi-automatic rifles, shotguns, and handguns. Everything is on the table for the incoming state legislature, from criminalizing youth hunters to forcing through the entire wish list of gun control measures.

    Virginia Democrat State Sen. Richard L. Saslaw, who represents portions of Alexandria, Fairfax County and Falls Church, all suburbs of Washington D.C., sponsored S.B. 16, which would prohibit the sale, transfer and possession of so-called “assault firearms” and certain magazines. Violating the measure would be a state felony.

    The text of the proposed legislation goes further than the states with the strictest of gun control laws. If passed, Virginia’s lawmakers would instantly turn lawful owners of America’s most popular-selling centerfire rifle into instant felons, unless they dispossess themselves of their legally purchased modern sporting rifle. There are way more than 16 million modern sporting rifles in private ownership in America. While the exact number of these popular rifles in Virginia isn’t known as state-specific estimates don’t exist, it’s important to note there is no proposed grandfather clause to exempt the likely several hundreds of thousands of rifles already in legal possession or even to register them.

    New York and Connecticut passed their draconian gun control laws that prohibited the sale of modern sporting rifles but allowed those already lawfully owned to kept if registered with the state. The attempt to register these rifles was an abysmal failure, however. As many as one million modern sporting rifles were estimated to be legally owned in The Empire State when they forced through a ban and registration in 2014. Connecticut did the same in 2013, where there was believed to be 350,000 rifles. At the registration deadline in Connecticut, just 41,347 rifles were registered. New York refused to answer the question until a Freedom of Information request was filed. State officials finally admitted only 23,847 registrations were filed.

    Changing Definitions
    The legislation would also change what is considered an “assault firearm.” Under the proposed definition, it would include any firearm that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine and one of the following characteristics:

    a folding or telescoping stock
    a pistol grip
    a thumbhole stock
    a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand
    a bayonet mount
    a grenade launcher
    a flare launcher
    a silencer
    a flash suppressor
    a muzzle brake
    a muzzle compensator
    a threaded barrel capable of accepting a silencer, flash suppressor, a muzzle brake or a muzzle compensator, or, any characteristic of like kind, which is left open to the individual to determine if they’re in violation of the proposed law.

    Pistols would be subject to the same definition, with the exception of the pistol grip. Also banned would be any firearm capable of holding more than 10 rounds with a fixed magazine, shotguns with revolving cylinders, or any of the listed characteristics, and those shotguns with a fixed magazine capacity of more than seven rounds. The ban also extends to “assault firearms” parts that can be assembled into a rifle.

    Magazines
    It’s not just the guns they’re after. The proposed legislation would also ban the import, sale, barter or transfer of any firearms magazine that’s designed to hold more than 10 rounds. That would seem to allow the millions of standard capacity magazines to remain as legally held, it’s just the overwhelming majority of the rifles with which they’re designed to be used wouldn’t be. The language is also important. It reads “designed to hold,” which indicates that after-market parts to limit the capacity wouldn’t work. Only those “designed” for just 10 rounds would remain legal for sale.

    Age-Based Gun Ban
    If that weren’t bad enough, Sen. Saslaw also introduced S.B. 18 that would institute an age-based gun ban, making it a felony to purchase a firearm unless the buyer is over 21. That would deny adult Virginians their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, yet they are eligible to vote, serve on juries, marry, serve in uniform and are fully vested in their rights to free speech and exercise of religion.

    But it does more. It would also erase the Old Dominion’s hunting and recreational target shooting heritage by making it a felony to allow anyone under 18 to be in possession of a firearm by themselves. This would make criminals of those parents who allow their teens to hunt by themselves on their own property unless they were under the immediate supervision of a parent or guardian or adult over 21 with parental permission.

    Virginia’s gun rights battle is real. The intention to disarm law-abiding Virginians is serious. The National Shooting Sports Foundation is focused and determined to defeat this gun control agenda and protect the ability of Virginians to exercise their Second Amendment rights.

    Read More: https://www.nssf.org/yes-virginia-they-want-to-seize-your-guns/?fbclid=IwAR3Op2MqhcWlVU-6ZgzJ0XvH4s_BNGfxiKlLsli63oO6XLQD57M5MgQb0pg

    My Thoughts:

    This action is against the 2A and needs to proceed to the Supreme Court.

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    Supreme Court may expand Second Amendment rights despite repeal of disputed gun restrictions
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    Assault Weapons Ban SB16 and Paramilitary Activity SB64 - Preppers, Militia, and Patriots WAKE UP!

    Today on the Bear Independent show we're discussing the Virginia SB16 and SB64 proposed legislation to regulate assault weapons and paramilitary activity. SB16 is a blatant attempt at an assault weapons ban, and SB64 is an attempt to take the teeth out of the militia. This is important because it is a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment and clears a path towards martial law.

    Virginia SB16 Assault Weapons Ban is a clear infringement on the 2nd Amendment; and SB64 paramilitary activity legislation is clearly designed to make felons out of people exercising their God-given constitutional rights to protect themselves from tyranny.

    This topic is quintessential to preparedness for all doomsday preppers, homesteaders survivalist, militia, minuteman, city prepping, rural prepper, normal people, or urban prepper looking to prepare for SHTF WROL TEOTWAWKI or natural disaster. Whether your own personal SHTF is the 2020 elections, economic collapse, civil unrest, martial law, food crisis, civil war, food shortage, EMP or CME, black swan event, or whatever, a prepper needs to be prepared for this topic.

    Regardless if you’re a Viking Preparedness prepper, Canadian Prepper, into city prepping, or just normal people, you need to be ready for SHTF WROL TEOTWAWKI which is why we’re discussing this topic today. Common prepper concerns are bug out bag, bugging out in general, food storage, security, commo, emergency preparedness, homesteading, budget, gardening, bushcrafting, end times, torah, get home bag, survival, EDC, and all the things we discuss at this channel.

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    Virginia Democrats Bill To Ban Everything About 2A.
    Wake up Virginia.

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    Taking firearms from law abiding citizens "IS NOT" going to Stop or even curve mass shootings, robbery, or any other gun violence!!!

    You anti-gun people are so ignorant and naive if you think it will!!!

    Almost all of previous mass shootings and other acts of gun violence have been inflicted on "unarmed" and unprotected kids, students, shoppers, and people at their workplaces, movies, concerts, clubs, restaurants, and other public gatherings.

    "ONLY" the criminals and non-law abiding people will continue to illegally and unlawfully possess firearms!!!
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  10. I do NOT think they care that the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS are NOT going to just give their guns over and be led to the proverbiale gas chambers , More Americans are aware of what is going on around them with the criminals running wild and the police having their hands tied so their safety falls on ourselves because also their manpower has been cut to such low numbers that most can not get to all of their calls in an eight hour shift .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael48632 View Post
    I do NOT think they care that the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS are NOT going to just give their guns over and be led to the proverbiale gas chambers , More Americans are aware of what is going on around them with the criminals running wild and the police having their hands tied so their safety falls on ourselves because also their manpower has been cut to such low numbers that most can not get to all of their calls in an eight hour shift .

    To the rational mind, it should be apparent that the thinking ability of nearly half of the people in this nation of adult age has been turned inside-out and upside-down. Because much of American citizenry has moved increasingly farther away from acceptance of godly government, the country has reached the point described by the Apostle Paul in Romans.

    “And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which should not be done". (Rom. 1: 28)

    If it were the "majority" of Americans, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Be assured that this isn't the same America as anytime past, quite to the contrary, the "majority" will surrender when the time comes, and it will come.



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