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    Thumbs down Sounds like concentration camps...

    Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla., has introduced to the House of Representatives a new bill, H.R. 645, calling for the secretary of homeland security to establish no fewer than six national emergency centers for corralling civilians on military installations.

    The proposed bill, which has received little mainstream media attention, appears designed to create the type of detention center that those concerned about use of the military in domestic affairs fear could be used as concentration camps for political dissidents, such as occurred in Nazi Germany.

    Heed the warning of a former Hitler Youth who sees America on the same path as pre-Nazi Germany in "Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" from WND Books!

    The bill also appears to expand the president's emergency power, much as the executive order signed by President Bush on May 9, 2007, that – as WND reported – gave the president the authority to declare an emergency and take over the direction of all federal, state, local, territorial and tribal governments without even consulting Congress.

    As WND also reported, DHS has awarded a $385 million contract to Houston-based KBR, Halliburton's former engineering and construction subsidiary, to build temporary detention centers on an "as-needed" basis in national emergency situations.

    According to the text of the proposed bill, the purpose of the National Emergency Centers is "to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster."

    Three additional purposes are specified in the text of the proposed legislation:

    * To provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of federal, state and local first responders;
    * To provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response and recovery efforts of government, private, not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations;
    * To meet other appropriate needs, as defined by the secretary of homeland security.

    The broad specifications of the bill's language, however, contribute to concern that the "national emergency" purpose could be utilized by the secretary of homeland security to include any kind of situation the government wants to contain or otherwise control.

    Rep. Hastings created controversy during the 2008 presidential campaign with his provocative comments concerning Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

    "If Sarah Palin isn't enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention," Hastings said, as reported by ABC News. "Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through."

    H.R. 645, which seeks to allocate $360 million for developing the emergency centers, has been referred to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure and to the Committee on Armed Services.

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    This of course is being introduced by a democrat, err I mean communist.
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    Exclamation here is the verbage from the bill

    HR 645 IH
    111th CONGRESS
    1st Session
    H. R. 645
    To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.
    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    January 22, 2009
    Mr. HASTINGS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and in addition to the Committee on Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

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    A BILL
    To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the ‘National Emergency Centers Establishment Act’.
    SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

    (a) In General- In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.
    (b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure--

    (1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;
    (2) to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders;
    (3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and
    (4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.
    SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

    (a) In General- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.
    (b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be--

    (1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;
    (2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;
    (3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;
    (4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;
    (5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;
    (6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:

    (A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and
    (B) the other shall be used daily for training; and
    (7) easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.
    (c) Location of National Emergency Centers- There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:

    (1) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.
    (2) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.
    (3) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.
    (4) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.
    (5) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.
    (6) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.
    (d) Preference for Designation of Closed Military Installations- Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers.
    (e) Transfer of Control of Closed Military Installations- If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation.
    (f) Cooperative Agreement for Joint Use of Existing Military Installations- If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.
    (g) Reports-

    (1) PRELIMINARY REPORT- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

    (A) an outline of the reasons why the site was selected;
    (B) an outline of the need to construct, repair, or update any existing infrastructure at the site;
    (C) an outline of the need to conduct any necessary environmental clean-up at the site;
    (D) an outline of preliminary plans for the transfer of control of the site from the Secretary of Defense to the Secretary of Homeland Security, if necessary under subsection (e); and
    (E) an outline of preliminary plans for entering into a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f).
    (2) UPDATE REPORT- Not later than 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

    (A) an update on the information contained in the report as required by paragraph (1);
    (B) an outline of the progress made toward the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);
    (C) an outline of the progress made toward entering a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and
    (D) recommendations regarding any authorizations and appropriations that may be necessary to provide for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.
    (3) FINAL REPORT- Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

    (A) finalized information detailing the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);
    (B) the finalized cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and
    (C) any additional information pertinent to the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.
    (4) ADDITIONAL REPORTS- The Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, may submit to Congress additional reports as necessary to provide updates on steps being taken to meet the requirements of this Act.
    SEC. 4. LIMITATIONS ON STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION.

    This Act does not affect--

    (1) the authority of the Federal Government to provide emergency or major disaster assistance or to implement any disaster mitigation and response program, including any program authorized by the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5121 et seq.); or
    (2) the authority of a State or local government to respond to an emergency.
    SEC. 5. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.

    There is authorized to be appropriated $180,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2009 and 2010 to carry out this Act. Such funds shall remain available until expended.
    SEC. 6. DEFINITIONS.

    In this Act, the following definitions apply:

    (1) CLOSED MILITARY INSTALLATION- The term ‘closed military installation’ means a military installation, or portion thereof, approved for closure or realignment under the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101-510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note) that meet all, or 2 out of the 3 following requirements:

    (A) Is located in close proximity to a transportation corridor.
    (B) Is located in a State with a high level or threat of disaster related activities.
    (C) Is located near a major metropolitan center.
    (2) EMERGENCY- The term ‘emergency’ has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).
    (3) MAJOR DISASTER- The term ‘major disaster’ has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).
    (4) MILITARY INSTALLATION- The term ‘military installation’ has the meaning given such term in section 2910 of the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101-510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note).
    FESTUS
    IN OMNIA PARATUS

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    Careful you may begin to sound like a conspiracy nut like myself. Seriously I hope that most Americans wake up before it is to late but I doubt it. Everyone wants to believe that things that have happened over the years were not planed but all just accidental. Most people can not handle the truth.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    The scary thing is that, in the aftermath of Katrina, 9/11, the southwest's wildfires, and the flooding in different areas,this bill might look like a good idea to most folks. The killer is that Purpose number 4.

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    If someone uncorks a dirty bomb in Los Angeles or New York City, there will be a lot of people that will need a place to go.

    The camps are just tools, and just like every other tool, it can be used for good or evil, and a lot in between.

    If a mass migration happens, and the Government were not prepared for it, they would be legitimately criticized, because it's within the realm of possibility.

    I guess right now, I'm thinking this is a good idea, but could change my mind rapidly if they every were used for bad things. Something to really understand here, imprisoning and placing Americans in camps is going to be a huge headache for the Government, there isn't any good reason to do that unless forced. The best way to keep a population under control and producing, is to keep them happy. People that are locked up, are NOT happy, and tend to be "high maintenance".
    I have become more optimistic, and now believe that things could get worse.


  7. Why not just reopen all the military bases we shut down and staff them with maintainence crews and military police. It already has all you need. Barracks, mess hall, infirmary, whatever one needs.

    They can be used in a national emergency to house citizens if necesary but they are designed in such a manner that they would be hard pressed to use them as concetration camps as everything is too spread out and people would have to much freedom of movement on base yet they would be in a secure area.

    In the interm we could use them as shelters for homeless vets. As training centers for the unemployed. AS temporary housing for people who have lost their homes due to forclosure or loss of employment. We could set up vocational schools for those kids who don't want to go on to college, can't afford to go to college or are to dumb to.

    There is probably a hundred more uses one culd come up with. They are already built. the infrastructure is already there. All you need to do is man it.

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    Foxbaron, read the bill. The prefered choice is to use bases from BRAC closures.

    Again, the big problem with this bill is Purpose #4: (4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

    Do we really trust our government with an opening that generalized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfhunter View Post
    Foxbaron, read the bill. The prefered choice is to use bases from BRAC closures.

    Again, the big problem with this bill is Purpose #4: (4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

    Do we really trust our government with an opening that generalized?
    Exactly. What happens when American citizens that do not toe the mark become #4? I know. That will never happen here right?
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

  10. I don't trust anything the government says or does.

    Chances are, we are all already on the list to be rounded up.

    #4 bothers me too. Would be nice if they listed what the "other appropriate needs are.

    We have lost our freedom in this country and apparenty there are only two choices left to us to get it back. Vote every single person out of office and put new folks in who understand what the Constitution meant or choice #2. I think you all know what choice #2 is.

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    it sounds ok up to a point ,it sounds more like there going to war or expecting some major disasters soon , but that homeland security thing leaves something that makes you wonder what may really be on there minds.

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